Reviewing another bracket route, this time for an FR5 proposal. Old cards show a fixture check, then a press visit, then green ticks. No intermediate dimensions. What can we salvage?
green tick after an undocumented trip to the press
MayaAbbott0040 · 2025年6月27日 09:04 UTC
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Does the green tick mean the bracket passed its final dimensions, or only that somebody finished the work on the card?
13分Final inspection, according to the inspector. But the failed reading before the press isn't on these cards. Only 'upright low'.
7分Can the inspector still find the final readings, even if the earlier ones are gone?
11分I had an export merge initial readings and rechecks into one column. The original traveller was much more useful than the spreadsheet everybody trusted. Have you checked whether these cards were copied from something else? A scan of the back can be worth more than another meeting.
13分回复 RosaChan1075
Rosa, was that a software import problem or did somebody deliberately keep only the last reading?
11分回复 RosaChan1075
Cards are originals. Inspector found final results in a separate book. They link by batch, not individual bracket. No magical missing column, unfortunately.
7分Luca, the export collapsed them. Nobody had asked it to preserve the distinction, so it looked tidier than the job actually was. We kept the original readings and correction note together once we found them.
20分Is the press work in the proposed cycle time? That green tick may be doing unpaid overtime.
2分Could the old operator show which feature they corrected on a retained bracket? I would ask that before trying to infer the correction from the final measurements alone.
2分回复 AdaAllen0303
I'd try that too, though I wouldn't ask them to recreate the pressing from memory just to explain it
22分Press work is missing from the estimate, Oliver. Ada, there are retained brackets. Operator is available to point out the feature, not demonstrate a correction.
5分A marked photo would help the software and planning people as well. 'Upright low' could be a height or an angle to someone who has never held the bracket.
14分回复 AdaAllen0303
Operator pointed to the upright angle. They used the press after the bracket had cooled. Final book measures that angle from the mounting face, but the fixture check just says against stop.
5分Was the same drawing revision used for the final book and the new proposal?
13分Revision F in both. Found the reference on the book's cover. Fixture drawing is older and doesn't identify which bracket revision it was checked against.
2分That leaves a fixture comparison and a missing process cost. I'd keep both visible. Otherwise everyone solves the drawing question and forgets the press again.
16分I would still use the final book to understand what they accepted. It cannot tell you the amount of correction, but throwing all the history away would lose a useful starting point.
15分回复 AdaAllen0303
Agreed on keeping it, Ada, though mixed batches worry me if anyone starts calculating an average correction from those numbers
16分No correction average. Keeping the final acceptance history and operator's feature photo. New trial needs paired measurements. Planning has put the press work back as an unresolved cost.
16分Thanks for coming back with the costing bit. Usually that's where the thread goes quiet.
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