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Untangling never submitted from submitted with no outcome

AaronAllen0262 · 2026年5月27日 02:45 UTC

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AaronAllen0262
I'm fixing our startup bookkeeping after a crash between sending a part inspection request and saving its result. The setup uses Universal Robots UR5e in a bench cell recording per-item inspection jobs, with a sample housing. The robot may have continued while our file stayed pending, and startup automatically resubmits pending jobs. That state currently covers both unsubmitted and uncertain work.

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TheoArcher0410

@AaronAllen0262 What is the last durable entry for this attempt? Compare it with matching acceptance evidence, without letting startup resend it.

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AaronAllen0262

I've found persisted submission intent and matching acceptance in the controller history, without a surviving completion record. This attempt is excluded from our automatic resend queue.

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TheoArcher0410

Keep it uncertain and reconcile by identity. Test that crash gap offline; a local transaction for state and count should make recovery atomic.

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KaiBarnes0541

Atomic locally. That transaction can't include the controller accepting a request. The gap that caused this still exists.

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TheoArcher0410

Exactly; my wording was too broad. The transaction protects local accounting. Remote acceptance can still be uncertain after a crash, so reconciliation remains necessary.

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AaronAllen0262

Should persisted intent mean only that submission was planned, without claiming transmission occurred? Our existing pending state has been hiding that distinction.

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TheoArcher0410

Yes. Intent is durable local evidence of a plan. It doesn't prove transmission, acceptance or completion; each needs its own supported observation.

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AaronAllen0262

I still don't have a confirmed completion for this attempt or a verified startup fix. It remains uncertain and excluded from automatic resubmission.

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TheoArcher0410

@AaronAllen0262 Understood. Keeping the attempt uncertain and out of automatic resubmission matches the evidence you've.

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