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I can't choose an FR5 position from this top view

CallumCarter0969 · 2025年2月13日 23:33 UTC

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CallumCarter0969
The front view of our brass-blank loading proposal looks roomy. The top view puts the gripper near the open mill door, and neither includes its cable connector. I cannot choose a base position from these. Has anyone used a full-size static mock-up to narrow the options?

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AdaArcher0390

What decision would the mock-up answer for you: doorway clearance at one pose, or whether the robot can travel between poses?

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CallumCarter0969

Doorway clearance first. We haven't got a path proposal yet. I'd rather discover an impossible tool pose before paying for the next design stage.

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AdaArcher0390

Then model the full tool at that pose, including the blank. What dimensions have you actually got from the tooling supplier?

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CallumCarter0969

Body and finger drawings, but the connector is only in a catalogue photograph. I've asked for its dimensions and routing requirements instead of measuring pixels.

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AdaArcher0390

Fair enough. I'd leave that part of the clearance decision pending until the supplier answers, because your mock-up could otherwise approve a space the connector needs

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ChloeBaker0483

Mark the tool orientation on the mock-up too. Ours got flipped during a meeting and suddenly everyone thought we'd gained clearance. Very cheap miracle, briefly.

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AdaArcher0390

Was the flipped version physically impossible, or just different from the tool design? Asking because an orientation change might still be a design option

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EllaBennett0729

For this proposal, make the represented pose explicit. A mock-up with no defined relationship to the flange can show a shape fitting through a hole without showing a usable robot configuration.

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CallumCarter0969

The supplier has supplied the connector envelope. Our assembled model fits at the planned pose, but only if we omit the machine's door latch. Which we shall generously count as not fitting.

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NinaAli0240

Before somebody suggests removing the latch, is there another base or tool orientation worth modelling within the machine's proper operating arrangement? A crowded drawing tends to make perfectly necessary parts look optional.

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AdaArcher0390

Can your designer compare a rotated tool orientation while keeping the machine arrangement intact? That seems the next useful drawing

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CallumCarter0969

They are checking two orientations. We are keeping the latch and door arrangement as supplied. The mock-up has done its job of finding the clash, not choosing the solution.

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AdaArcher0390

And will that comparison include the wrist behind the tool? I don't want us to spend another week measuring fingers and forget what carries them

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EllaBennett0729

Also request the permitted assumptions for the cable route. The connector envelope answers one local question. It does not describe how the cable occupies space through the proposed motion.

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CallumCarter0969

Yes to the wrist, and the cable routing is now with the tooling designer. They've found one plausible orientation, subject to the full motion review. Nothing has been ordered.

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ChloeBaker0483

To answer Ada's earlier question, our flipped mock-up put the hose exit through the bracket. An alternative tool could have done it, but the quoted one couldn't.

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NinaAli0240

That is why I like the actual quoted assembly identified in the review, not just 'gripper'. Stores cannot hand over the clever alternative everyone imagined if purchasing ordered the original.

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AdaArcher0390

Did the one remaining orientation survive the motion review, or are you still waiting on the cable route?

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CallumCarter0969

Still waiting on the cable route. The rigid geometry review found no clash along the proposed path, but we've left the comparison provisional until the complete assembly is reviewed.

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