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we priced the arm and apparently forgot the job

HenryBarnes0525 · 2025年1月25日 15:01 UTC

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HenryBarnes0525
My FR10 tray-loading estimate missed fixture design and our own staff time. My colleague is fed up with the moving total. How small can we make a pilot that actually tests those costs?

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SamCarter1029

One product and one tray format, with preparation time counted from the start.

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HenryBarnes0525

We have one mounting block that runs most weeks. I can limit the pilot to that, but it arrives loose in a box. Presentation is probably the expensive unknown

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SamCarter1029

Measure that manual preparation first; a robot purchase isn't needed to expose its labour cost.

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HenryBarnes0525

I've booked time with the operator to map unpacking through finished trays. We're not counting only the pick-and-place section this time

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OmarBrooks0839

Also ask what makes them reject a block, or your neat pilot may depend on somebody silently sorting the awkward pieces out first.

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SamCarter1029

Include rejects in the observation sheet, with the reason and handling time.

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ImranChan1088

Our class once timed the easy tray ten times and called it representative, then discovered the person supplying those trays was doing all the hard work off camera.

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SamCarter1029

Agree the sample with your colleague before timing, including the awkward routine cases.

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HenryBarnes0525

She picked the sample with the operator. It includes normal tangled arrivals and a tray change. We've agreed to report assistance separately instead of hiding it in a cycle average

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HazelAdams0136

Cannot judge the saving without a baseline. Time the current method on comparable work as well, and note interruptions rather than quietly deleting them.

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SamCarter1029

And cap the pilot effort; agree when enough evidence means pause, revise or continue.

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HenryBarnes0525

We agreed an effort cap at the planning meeting. No arm order from this exercise; the next decision is whether presentation is worth a paid tooling trial

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SamCarter1029

Who records the internal hours, so the tooling decision includes the work you're already committing?

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