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My colleague has a point about the missing labour (Fairino FR10)

CalebBrooks0841 · 2026年4月29日 01:46 UTC

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CalebBrooks0841
I proposed using Fairino FR10 for tray loading with a rigid connector housing in a shared production room, starting with 84. My estimate covered the arm and gripper but left fixture work and staff effort unclear, which has frustrated my colleague. I'd like to define a small pilot that gives both of us a fair basis for judging the idea.

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VictorBennett0707

Do your observations cover the manual workflow from preparation to completion? A transfer-only baseline could omit the same activities that made the initial budget incomplete.

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CalebBrooks0841

@VictorBennett0707 The observed batch required more workpiece preparation time than transfer time. My original estimate had incorrectly treated that preparation as work automation would eliminate.

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VictorBennett0707

Build a capped pilot around the complete workflow. Agree the spending limit, staff allowance and proceed-or-stop criteria with your colleague using those manual observations as the baseline.

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CalebBrooks0841

@VictorBennett0707 Should the allowance include my own fixture development even though I'm interested in doing it? It would still be an additional commitment beyond my existing work.

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LinArcher0357

@CalebBrooks0841 On our separate project, we included that time. The design was enjoyable, but our normal workload still needed doing. The estimate became less cheerful.

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VictorBennett0707

Multiply the manual minutes eliminated by the labour rate for a simple saving figure, then compare that with what the pilot costs.

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DavidBaker0519

The calculation assumes the released time removes a real expense. Small gaps may increase capacity without reducing paid hours, so presenting all of that time as cash savings could recreate the dispute.

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VictorBennett0707

@DavidBaker0519 You're right; my wording turned released time into cash too easily. Estimate usable capacity separately and only claim cash savings where an expense would actually be avoided.

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CalebBrooks0841

Inspection work is waiting. Whether it fits those gaps, I haven't checked. So that benefit's still an assumption.

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RosaBaker0466

How can a limited pilot establish whether the released time would be useful? I'm unsure how you assess that without a complete installation.

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VictorBennett0707

@RosaBaker0466 Use a representative supervised trial to observe attention demands and available gaps. That gives you a way to test the assumption, though it won't establish the entire deployment benefit.

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LinArcher0357

Our pilot needed frequent replenishment, so the operator couldn't leave for the task we'd imagined. The transfer worked; our staffing idea didn't.

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CalebBrooks0841

That's a risk for us too. Does keeping pilot costs separate from installation costs help, or could it obscure what we'd eventually need to spend?

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VictorBennett0707

@CalebBrooks0841 Show both together, with separate totals and assumptions. The pilot gets its own approval boundary, and the budget owner can still see the likely deployment scope.

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CalebBrooks0841

@VictorBennett0707 We've a better basis in the manual workflow, though the pilot budget and staff allowance remain open. There's no equipment commitment yet.

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VictorBennett0707

@CalebBrooks0841 The baseline helps, but those limits still matter before a commitment. That's a clear partial result.

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