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the packing quote doesn't include anyone filling its trays

PriyaCarter1003 · 2025年7月25日 03:47 UTC

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PriyaCarter1003
Our FR5 packing quote now includes the guarding, fixture and training. It still assumes boxed modules arrive in perfect rows, apparently by local magic. The second quote includes presentation but leaves changeover vague. How do I get a comparison we can actually buy from?

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RosaAdams0118

Write down the same start and finish for both jobs. Ours once compared a robot receiving prepared parts with another proposal doing the preparation too. Or rather, we compared their prices before noticing they had priced different work.

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PriyaCarter1003

Start is modules in the supplier's shipping boxes. Finish is loaded packing trays at the next station. First quote starts after unpacking and arranging. Second starts from the shipping boxes.

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RosaAdams0118

That gives you a specific gap to price. Ask the first supplier for the preparation option, but keep a manual-preparation alternative too. Automation of that bit may cost more than it saves at your volume.

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PriyaCarter1003

First supplier will price preparation. Our supervisor reckons one person could feed two stations, but we haven't watched the whole job yet. I don't want to book half a person on optimism.

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RosaAdams0118

Nor should you. Include replenishing and clearing the empty shipping boxes when you watch it, not just the satisfying bit where a hand places a module in a pocket.

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NaomiBaker0506

And get the exclusions in writing for both quotes, because a spreadsheet full of your estimates can quietly turn into a list of things everyone thinks the supplier promised.

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PriyaCarter1003

Done. We've marked supplier price, our estimate and unknown separately. There are more unknowns than I was hoping, but at least they stopped looking like free extras.

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RosaAdams0118

What does the second supplier actually include under changeover? A recipe choice, a tooling swap, or someone teaching your staff how to do the whole thing?

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JuliaAllen0326

Which module variants must the purchased cell handle? That needs to be common between the quotes before changeover scope can be compared. A price for one fixed setup does not cover an unspecified family.

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PriyaCarter1003

Three current variants. Both suppliers have the drawings now. The second quote included the tooling changes but only one demonstration to our day shift, no night-shift training.

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AmaraBell0687

We missed operator preparation time on a panel proposal. Good to see yours getting counted early.

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RosaAdams0118

Priya, could your own trainer cover nights after the supplier session, or does the supplier need to deliver both? Worth costing those as explicit choices rather than leaving the second shift invisible.

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PriyaCarter1003

Our trainer can cover it if the supplier provides a usable handover and includes recovery and changeover. We've asked for that scope. A single clean demonstration won't do the job.

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NaomiBaker0506

Have the supplier price that exact handover, then compare your internal training hours separately; otherwise the larger training number gets blamed on whichever quote happened to admit it.

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PriyaCarter1003

Requested. Preparation option from supplier one is back, but the training and changeover answers are still coming. No winner yet. Thanks for helping turn the argument into named bits of work.

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JuliaAllen0326

Did the preparation option cover all three module variants from their actual shipping boxes, or only the easiest arrangement used for its demonstration?

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