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Choosing an arm when the demos don't match (Fairino FR10)

DavidChan1128 · 2026年5月25日 07:03 UTC

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DavidChan1128
We're considering Fairino FR10 alongside other candidates for sorted tray loading with a rigid plastic cap in a compact parts handling area, with 176 planned. Although both demonstrations looked promising, one used a tidy tray and the other used our awkward workshop tray. That difference makes it hard to tell what the videos actually establish about the candidates.

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FionaBell0673

Have you listed tray adjustments separately from missed pickups? Comparing those observations could show how much of the apparent transfer performance depended on preparation.

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DavidChan1128

The notes are scrappy, but they distinguish the tray adjustments that aren't obvious in the footage. They also show most missed pickups occurring after tray replacement across the candidates.

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FionaBell0673

@DavidChan1128 Use those notes to plan a common tray trial, including normal replacement. Agree what counts as acceptable placement and operator help, then record both for each candidate.

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OmarBrown0926

On our own transfer job, the uninterrupted run hid a fiddly locating step. Asking a second operator to replace the tray made that painfully obvious.

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DavidChan1128

How did you attribute the locating work in your comparison? Our discussion repeatedly stalls over whether it belongs against the robot or the fixture.

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OmarBrown0926

For my setup, package cost, labelled as fixture work. Somebody still had to pay, whichever column won.

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FionaBell0673

Keeping the same gripper would make the comparison fair too. That removes another variable while you sort out the tray issue.

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JackAbbott0080

Same gripper, unfair adapter? That's still a skewed comparison if the mounting suits one arm better.

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FionaBell0673

You're right, identical tooling was too broad a rule. Match the gripping requirement, list adapter and tuning differences, and use the proposed tools when sharing one would skew the comparison.

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AaronBrown0871

@FionaBell0673 Does that mean a candidate can arrive with a custom fixture and still be compared? I'm trying to understand where the boundary goes.

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FionaBell0673

Yes, if it's part of what you'd buy. Keep the incoming samples and required result consistent, and include that fixture's cost and changeover work.

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DavidChan1128

@FionaBell0673 The samples I've retained represent ordinary variation in our batch. We didn't select rejected workpieces specifically to make the demonstration difficult.

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JackAbbott0080

Then include those alongside the easy ones. A comparison made entirely of awkward samples could misrepresent the mix just as badly as the polished demo.

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DavidChan1128

We also encounter empty pockets in normal work. I'd like to include that condition in the comparison without anybody creating an unplanned fault while the equipment moves.

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FionaBell0673

Ask the person responsible for the equipment to plan that test. Prepare the tray while access is safe, and agree the expected response first.

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OmarBrown0926

For our job, we logged assistance during changeover too. The second operator's quick result depended on constant prompts from the demonstrator, which wouldn't match our staffing.

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DavidChan1128

We've a way forward: a shared tray trial with placement and operator-help limits agreed first. Choosing the arm stays conditional on that comparison, rather than the existing clips.

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FionaBell0673

That gives the comparison a clear purpose. Keeping the purchase conditional fits what the existing videos can actually tell you.

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