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Should startup resubmit a job with no saved result? (fixture verification)

DavidBell0693 · 2026年8月3日 19:56 UTC

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DavidBell0693
I'm fixing our startup bookkeeping after a crash between sending a fixture verification request and saving its result. The setup uses Fairino FR10 in a small production inspection area, with a reference plate. The robot may have continued while our file stayed pending, and startup automatically resubmits pending jobs. That state currently covers both unsubmitted and uncertain work.

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AaronBaker0436

@DavidBell0693 What is the last durable entry for this attempt? Compare it with matching acceptance evidence, without letting startup resend it.

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DavidBell0693

@AaronBaker0436 I've found persisted submission intent and matching acceptance in the controller history, without a surviving completion record. This attempt is excluded from our automatic resend queue.

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AaronBaker0436

@DavidBell0693 Keep it uncertain and reconcile by identity. Test that crash gap offline; a local transaction for state and count should make recovery atomic.

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AnikaAli0247

Atomic locally. That transaction can't include the controller accepting a request. The gap that caused this still exists.

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AaronBaker0436

@AnikaAli0247 You're right to distinguish those. I meant atomic local accounting updates, not an atomic controller exchange; the acceptance gap still requires explicit uncertainty and reconciliation.

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DavidBell0693

Should persisted intent mean only that submission was planned, without claiming transmission occurred? Our existing pending state has been hiding that distinction.

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AaronBaker0436

Yes. Intent is durable local evidence of a plan. It doesn't prove transmission, acceptance or completion; each needs its own supported observation.

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LucyCarter1002

If there's no acceptance saved locally, why not call it unsubmitted? Isn't that the only record startup can use?

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AaronBaker0436

@LucyCarter1002 The remote side may accept the request before the application persists its acknowledgement. Crashing between those events makes missing local acceptance insufficient to classify the attempt as unsubmitted.

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HazelAllen0310

My own test suite covered interruption before transmission but omitted interruption after remote acceptance and before local persistence, leaving the difficult recovery case untested.

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DavidBell0693

Our offline replay will interrupt between remote acceptance and local acknowledgement persistence, then verify that startup preserves uncertainty without issuing another request.

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AnikaAli0247

Which evidence is sufficient to resolve the outcome? Matching acceptance establishes that the request was accepted, but not that inspection completed.

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DavidBell0693

@AnikaAli0247 I'll require evidence of completion tied to the attempt before recording it as complete. The acceptance we've only establishes that it wasn't simply unsubmitted.

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DavidBell0693

The final result and recovery implementation remain unresolved. I've retained the attempt as uncertain and kept it out of the automatic resend queue.

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AaronBaker0436

Understood. Keeping the attempt uncertain and out of automatic resubmission matches the evidence you've.

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