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Cannot choose the carton pattern from the fullest pallet picture

LoganBlair · 2025年10月23日 16:19 UTC

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LoganBlair
I'm being asked to compare two UR5e pallet layouts by cartons per layer. The denser one rotates every other layer and puts some carton feet across gaps. The simpler one keeps the feet lined up but fits fewer cartons. Neither has been reviewed with the proposed tool. I can measure where the feet land. I can't turn those measurements into a packaging approval, and I don't want my annotated picture used as one. Has anyone made this comparison useful without getting stuck arguing about the biggest number?

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LucyBrown0915
回复 LoganBlair

Put support approval ahead of the capacity column. An option that has not passed it stays a candidate. And show the tool placing the final carton in a layer. The middle of an empty pallet is the easy picture.

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LeoBrooks0797
回复 LoganBlair

Price the simpler one as well. We got so attached to a high count that nobody asked what the extra complication cost. Our eventual choice used fewer cartons per layer

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LoganBlair

That's the argument I'm trying to have, Leo. Purchasing keeps calling the simpler arrangement the fallback before anyone has compared the work involved.

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LucaBrooks0787

Leo, was the lower count offset by easier changeovers, or did you accept a capacity loss for another reason?

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LeoBrooks0797

Fewer packing interruptions. Changeovers weren't the deciding bit for us. We had to compare complete shifts before the high-count version stopped looking like the obvious winner.

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SofiaChen1152
回复 LoganBlair

Logan, what tool have they proposed? I have seen capacity comparisons that quietly assumed the fingers could withdraw through the neighbouring carton.

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LucyBrown0915

Sofia's point matters even if the support is approved. But I would keep the reviews connected, not wait for packaging to finish before tooling sees either layout.

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LoganBlair

A side-gripping concept, Sofia. The current drawing shows its closed outline only. I've asked them to add the withdrawal space on both layouts. Lucy, both reviewers have the same two candidates now.

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SofiaChen1152
回复 LoganBlair

Thanks, that explains why the picture could look complete. Check the pickup end too. Does the feed arrangement leave space for those fingers around the carton?

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LucaBrooks0787
回复 LoganBlair

And who handles the partly completed pallet when dispatch changes product before it is full?

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LoganBlair

Feed conveyor has clearance reserved, Sofia, though it hasn't been checked against the tool revision. Luca, dispatch currently finishes partial pallets by hand. I hadn't included that work in either comparison.

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LeoBrooks0797
回复 LoganBlair

That's exactly where ours looked better on paper. Don't just time the robot's nice run between interruptions

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SofiaChen1152
回复 LoganBlair

A reserved gap is a starting point. Have the tool designer check its actual opening and approach there. Otherwise you could solve the pallet and still be unable to collect a carton.

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LoganBlair

Packaging has ruled out the dense arrangement as drawn. Tooling still owes us the withdrawal check on the simpler one. I've stopped presenting this as a choice between two ready solutions.

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LucaBrooks0787
回复 LoganBlair

Will dispatch be able to review the manual finish before the simpler arrangement is costed as complete?

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