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Fairino FR10 inspection plan: scratches or changing reflections?

EmmaAbbott0028 · 2026年7月23日 10:11 UTC

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EmmaAbbott0028
We're planning checking cosmetic metal surfaces with a fixed camera, with Fairino FR10 presenting a brushed stainless trim plate to a fixed camera in a cosmetic components workshop. Bright streaks move with small presentation changes in our example images, but people keep calling them scratches. We haven't commissioned the cell. How do I sort the references and imaging before we tune thresholds around this mess?

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HanaAllen0274

Were those scratches confirmed on the physical samples using your agreed appearance method? Start by linking each image to a sample and its inspection result.

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EmmaAbbott0028

@HanaAllen0274 I've found that some labels were assigned from the images themselves. The samples are still available, but those labels have no corresponding physical inspection results, making the reference circular.

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HanaAllen0274

Keep the image-only labels uncertain pending physical inspection. A controlled comparison of lighting and presentation can then investigate whether the moving streaks indicate reflection effects.

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CarlaAllen0314

A scratch's visibility can change with presentation too. Don't let 'moving streak' quietly become the rule for relabelling something acceptable.

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HanaAllen0274

Correct. I meant a reason to investigate the imaging, not a new defect label. Physical acceptance stays with the agreed inspection method.

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FarahChan1113

Should uncertain images be treated as acceptable, or kept somewhere separate while their status is established?

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HanaAllen0274

Keep them explicitly undecided, with the sample link. Don't use them as confirmed examples of either class until the physical review settles them.

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EmmaAbbott0028

@HanaAllen0274 I've checked the image folders and found that exposure and presentation both changed between them. Their improved appearance can't be attributed to either change individually.

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MinaAbbott0076

On my inspection setup, a folder called 'better lighting' also contained easier samples. The folder name was doing a lot of unearned work.

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EmmaAbbott0028

Which details did you retain with each image? I can record sample identity and settings, but I'd like a practical record people will actually maintain.

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MinaAbbott0076

On my setup we kept sample ID, exposure, lighting arrangement and presentation condition. Enough to explain a comparison without reconstructing the whole session from memory.

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HanaAllen0274

Use those details to ask your vision specialist for controlled comparisons on representative surfaces. Keep the sample set fixed when assessing an acquisition change.

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FarahChan1113

Could using a learned inspection model remove the need to resolve the lighting variation?

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HanaAllen0274

@FarahChan1113 It still needs trustworthy labels and representative evaluation. A different model doesn't establish whether your reference scratches are real or your acquisition comparison is fair.

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CarlaAllen0314

@HanaAllen0274 And don't tune and test on different pictures of the same physical sample. That isn't the independence the result would suggest.

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EmmaAbbott0028

@CarlaAllen0314 I'll group images by physical sample before dividing the tuning and evaluation sets. The current filenames wouldn't reliably expose the same sample appearing in both.

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EmmaAbbott0028

I can explain the reference uncertainty better, although the example images still don't support a performance judgement. Physical classification and image-condition comparisons remain outstanding.

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HanaAllen0274

That follows from the reference gap. Explaining it more clearly helps, but the images still can't carry a performance claim.

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