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Two inspection attempts share a job number in our log

AnnaBaker0503 · 2025年1月20日 02:06 UTC

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AnnaBaker0503
Our inspection screen says the bracket passed after a retry. I cannot prove which attempt produced that result. The Python service restarted and reused its job number, while the PLC log has a different clock. The UR5e controller log adds a third version of the timeline. How do I report this without guessing?

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LeahBarnes0582

Report the result as unattributed until you can connect it to an attempt; ordering entries by their printed times would assume those clocks agree.

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AnnaBaker0503

I have kept the original logs. Within the Python file, the timeout is before the restart. The pass arrives after it, but the job number is identical.

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LeahBarnes0582

That establishes the application's recorded sequence, but a late reply from the earlier attempt could still have arrived after the restart.

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TomMill

Does the acknowledgement contain anything besides the reused job number?

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LeahBarnes0582
回复 TomMill

An echoed attempt identifier would be useful; a local receive counter alone identifies the receipt, not necessarily the request that caused it.

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AnnaBaker0503
回复 TomMill

Only the job number and result. There is a local counter, but it resets on startup. We have no evidence that distinguishes the two possible sources.

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ThomasAbbott0016

We found a similar ambiguity by reading the logs on paper before touching the code. Mark both possible histories; it stops the plausible one quietly becoming fact.

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AnikaAdams0160

A table with source, local order and restart boundary helped us, because three timestamp columns had made our uncertainty look impressively precise.

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LeahBarnes0582

For future attempts, discuss a persistent session identity plus a distinct attempt identity with the interface owner, and require the responder to echo the relevant identity.

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AnnaBaker0503

The interface owner has proposed that change. I also asked what happens to late responses after a timeout. At present the screen will accept a matching job number without checking the attempt state.

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LeahBarnes0582

That acceptance rule needs review alongside identification; uniquely labelling a stale response does not by itself stop the application using it.

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AnnaBaker0503

We have recorded the old result as indeterminate. The proposed interface will reject responses outside the expected attempt state, but we have not tested that implementation yet.

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LeahBarnes0582

Include delayed and repeated responses in those tests, particularly across a service restart; that is the boundary your original evidence could not resolve.

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