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The robot quote was only half our packing estimate

AdamBailey · 2025年4月27日 23:53 UTC

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AdamBailey
Our FR10 packing estimate grew once fixtures, guarding and training appeared. I'm comparing two proposals, but several lines still say by customer. How should I show those without guessing a tidy total?

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AaronCarter0958
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Don't make them zero. Who is the customer person expected to do each bit? If nobody can answer that, you haven't got an estimate for it yet.

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AdamBailey

That's what happened in my spreadsheet. Empty price cells summed as zero, and the cheaper proposal had more of them.

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AaronCarter0958
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Classic bargain. All the work is elsewhere.

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AdamBailey

I've changed those to unpriced with an owner column. The overall comparison now says incomplete. Less satisfying, more accurate.

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AaronCarter0958
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Get a price range where someone has enough information to give one, and say what it's based on. Don't invent a range just to fill the coloured cell either.

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JoBarnes0592
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Does by customer include your time commissioning it, or just buying the missing kit?

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AdamBailey

Both, depending on the line. One supplier expects us to teach the product variants. I hadn't included staff time for that.

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AaronCarter0958
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Ask them which variants and what support they provide. Teaching one prepared sample and owning every changeover afterwards are rather different jobs.

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LuisAdams0173
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Our fixture quote looked decent until I asked who was making the spare nests. Me, apparently. In the time left over from all the other things I was supposedly doing for free.

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AaronCarter0958

Toolroom time is an actual cost. Amazing how often the spreadsheet disagrees.

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GraceAllen0320

List spare nests and wear parts by quantity. A vague spares allowance won't tell stores what should arrive.

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AaronCarter0958
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What have the two quotes actually included for training? Hours, people, subjects? It's another word that can cover anything from a proper handover to someone pointing at start.

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AdamBailey

One says a day on site. The other lists operator and maintenance sessions but no duration. I've asked both for the content, attendees and follow-up support.

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JoBarnes0592
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And who covers the attendees' normal jobs while they're learning?

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AdamBailey

Added staff cover. We now have estimates for internal fixture work and a list of questions on training. Still waiting for a complete guarding proposal.

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AaronCarter0958
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That last one could change the layout, so avoid treating it as a bolt-on price. Have whoever owns the cell design settle how it's meant to work with loading and access.

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LuisAdams0173

And cleaning. We had to get a trolley through a gap the first drawing filled with a cabinet, which was a pain to discover after everyone liked the layout.

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GraceAllen0320

Use the same layout revision for both revised quotes. Otherwise a low price may just be for the older, smaller job.

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AaronCarter0958
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Are you getting somewhere with it now, or still collecting exclusions?

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AdamBailey

Somewhere, finally. We can compare the priced items and see exactly what remains open. I haven't ranked the totals yet; the two suppliers are now quoting the same training and layout scope.

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