Don't make them zero. Who is the customer person expected to do each bit? If nobody can answer that, you haven't got an estimate for it yet.
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The robot quote was only half our packing estimate
AdamBailey · 2025年4月27日 23:53 UTC
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That's what happened in my spreadsheet. Empty price cells summed as zero, and the cheaper proposal had more of them.
6分Classic bargain. All the work is elsewhere.
16分I've changed those to unpriced with an owner column. The overall comparison now says incomplete. Less satisfying, more accurate.
1分Get a price range where someone has enough information to give one, and say what it's based on. Don't invent a range just to fill the coloured cell either.
9分Does by customer include your time commissioning it, or just buying the missing kit?
12分Both, depending on the line. One supplier expects us to teach the product variants. I hadn't included staff time for that.
13分Ask them which variants and what support they provide. Teaching one prepared sample and owning every changeover afterwards are rather different jobs.
25分Our fixture quote looked decent until I asked who was making the spare nests. Me, apparently. In the time left over from all the other things I was supposedly doing for free.
1分Toolroom time is an actual cost. Amazing how often the spreadsheet disagrees.
21分List spare nests and wear parts by quantity. A vague spares allowance won't tell stores what should arrive.
12分What have the two quotes actually included for training? Hours, people, subjects? It's another word that can cover anything from a proper handover to someone pointing at start.
8分One says a day on site. The other lists operator and maintenance sessions but no duration. I've asked both for the content, attendees and follow-up support.
12分And who covers the attendees' normal jobs while they're learning?
16分Added staff cover. We now have estimates for internal fixture work and a list of questions on training. Still waiting for a complete guarding proposal.
12分That last one could change the layout, so avoid treating it as a bolt-on price. Have whoever owns the cell design settle how it's meant to work with loading and access.
8分And cleaning. We had to get a trolley through a gap the first drawing filled with a cabinet, which was a pain to discover after everyone liked the layout.
10分Use the same layout revision for both revised quotes. Otherwise a low price may just be for the older, smaller job.
4分Are you getting somewhere with it now, or still collecting exclusions?
7分Somewhere, finally. We can compare the priced items and see exactly what remains open. I haven't ranked the totals yet; the two suppliers are now quoting the same training and layout scope.
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