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Why does every FR5 quote leave me another job to price?

TobyBaker0492 · 2025年8月1日 05:50 UTC

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TobyBaker0492
I'm helping price an FR5 for putting small cartons into packing inserts. The first offer looked within reach. Then I asked how the cartons arrive at the pickup and got a separate fixture estimate. Asked about changing sizes and got another line. We only run short orders, so I don't expect this to pay for itself by moving quickly for an hour. But I need something I can put beside the other offer without pretending our own fitting and training time is free. Where do you stop asking for detail and allow a sensible contingency?

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AnilBell0636

Price the carton presentation first. Put your actual cartons and inserts on the bench and walk through who replenishes what. Cheap way to find work missing from both offers.

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TobyBaker0492

We've walked it through with packing. Both offers leave us filling pickup trays, but only one includes the trays themselves. That's the bit that started this.

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Warren_Bailey

Then why are you buying trays before anyone has priced feeding straight from the existing packing bench?

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TobyBaker0492

Warren, that's still an option. One supplier wanted tidy rows for its demonstration and the rows somehow became our proposed production method.

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AnikaBell0682

And who gets called when those tidy rows aren't tidy? Usually someone already busy.

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AaronAllen0262

A contingency is reasonable for uncertain fitting time, but not for a whole feeding method you haven't chosen

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JamieArcher0382

What did packing find slow in the walkthrough? Filling pockets, fetching cartons, or changing the insert? Those observations may help decide which unknown deserves another paid visit.

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PatBailey

I'd keep manual tray filling in the comparison. Not glamorous, but it might be decent for small orders if you can fill off-line and change a whole tray.

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TheoBrooks0845
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Off-line still needs somebody's time, Pat.

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PatBailey

Yes, include it. I meant it needn't leave the robot waiting. At our bench a spare tray helped more than the clever feeder we'd been sketching.

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NathanBarnes0547

Does either price include teaching your late shift to change carton size without ringing the day person?

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AnitaBailey

Ask for the exclusions on one page. The cheap quote we inherited excluded commissioning travel. Apparently the integrator was meant to materialise beside the machine

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TobyBaker0492

Jamie, filling the narrow pockets was the slow part. Nathan, neither quote names a second shift for training. Thanks for that one; I'm the late person and would rather not become the whole support plan.

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PriyaBennett0742

I would keep the packing team's tray-filling result visible even if a different feeder is proposed. You will need another comparison, not a quiet deletion of the first one

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TobyBaker0492

Aaron's distinction helps. I've taken feeding out of contingency and marked it undecided. Supplier has offered a separate layout visit, but we haven't agreed its scope or price yet.

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AnilBell0636

Have them bring a sketch of both feeding options to that discussion. If the visit is only to measure the tray arrangement they already prefer, you won't learn much about the other one.

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