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Am I comparing Fairino FR5 or tray preparation?

SamArcher0420 · 2026年4月18日 07:23 UTC

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SamArcher0420
We're considering Fairino FR5 alongside other candidates for fixture-to-tray unloading with a rigid plastic cap in a supervised prototype cell, with 64 planned. Although both demonstrations looked promising, one used a tidy tray and the other used our awkward workshop tray. That difference makes it hard to tell what the videos actually establish about the candidates.

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AlexAbbott0037

@SamArcher0420 Have you listed tray adjustments separately from missed pickups? Comparing those observations could show how much of the apparent transfer performance depended on preparation.

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SamArcher0420

The notes are scrappy, but they distinguish the tray adjustments that aren't obvious in the footage. They also show most missed pickups occurring after tray replacement across the candidates.

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AlexAbbott0037

@SamArcher0420 A shared tray trial sounds useful, with ordinary tray replacement included. Set acceptable placement and operator involvement in advance, and log both against each candidate.

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IsabelBennett0735

@AlexAbbott0037 We had a separate transfer application where the locating step was awkward, but the continuous run looked fine. A tray replacement by another operator exposed it

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SamArcher0420

@IsabelBennett0735 Robot cost or fixture cost? Our meeting keeps getting stuck there.

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IsabelBennett0735

For my setup, package cost, labelled as fixture work. Somebody still had to pay, whichever column won

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AlexAbbott0037

I'd also keep the gripper identical to make the comparison fair. It takes another variable out while you investigate tray location.

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SofiaBell0630

@AlexAbbott0037 An identical gripper doesn't establish fairness when its mounting arrangement favours one candidate. The adapter compromise would influence the comparison as well as the gripper itself.

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AlexAbbott0037

@SofiaBell0630 You're right, identical tooling was too broad a rule. Match the gripping requirement, list adapter and tuning differences, and use the proposed tools when sharing one would skew the comparison.

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NadiaAbbott0030

Could one candidate bring a custom fixture, then? I'm unsure what you hold constant if each proposal has different tooling.

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AlexAbbott0037

It can, provided the fixture belongs in the purchase scope. Use equivalent incoming samples and acceptance requirements, and account for fixture cost and changeover effort.

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SamArcher0420

The samples I've retained represent ordinary variation in our batch. We didn't select rejected workpieces specifically to make the demonstration difficult.

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SofiaBell0630

Then include those alongside the easy ones. A comparison made entirely of awkward samples could misrepresent the mix just as badly as the polished demo.

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SamArcher0420

We also encounter empty pockets in normal work. I'd like to include that condition in the comparison without anybody creating an unplanned fault while the equipment moves.

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AlexAbbott0037

@SamArcher0420 Have the equipment lead define the test and expected response. The empty pocket should be prepared under safe access conditions, not created during motion.

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IsabelBennett0735

We also recorded how much help the second operator needed. A fast changeover with the demonstrator pointing at every setting wasn't our actual staffing plan

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SamArcher0420

@IsabelBennett0735 I've settled the next decision: use a common tray trial with agreed placement and intervention limits. Any choice of the arm will depend on that result; the existing videos don't settle it.

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AlexAbbott0037

A defined trial is a useful decision in itself. Making the selection depend on it matches the limits of the clips.

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