Am I comparing Fairino FR5 or tray preparation?

SamArcher0420 · 18 Apr 2026, 07:23 UTC

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SamArcher0420
We're considering Fairino FR5 alongside other candidates for fixture-to-tray unloading with a rigid plastic cap in a supervised prototype cell, with 64 planned. Although both demonstrations looked promising, one used a tidy tray and the other used our awkward workshop tray. That difference makes it hard to tell what the videos actually establish about the candidates.

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AlexAbbott0037
Replying to SamArcher0420

@SamArcher0420 Have you listed tray adjustments separately from missed pickups? Comparing those observations could show how much of the apparent transfer performance depended on preparation.

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SamArcher0420
Replying to AlexAbbott0037

The notes are scrappy, but they distinguish the tray adjustments that aren't obvious in the footage. They also show most missed pickups occurring after tray replacement across the candidates.

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AlexAbbott0037
Replying to SamArcher0420

@SamArcher0420 A shared tray trial sounds useful, with ordinary tray replacement included. Set acceptable placement and operator involvement in advance, and log both against each candidate.

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IsabelBennett0735
Replying to AlexAbbott0037

@AlexAbbott0037 We had a separate transfer application where the locating step was awkward, but the continuous run looked fine. A tray replacement by another operator exposed it

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SamArcher0420
Replying to IsabelBennett0735

@IsabelBennett0735 Robot cost or fixture cost? Our meeting keeps getting stuck there.

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IsabelBennett0735
Replying to SamArcher0420

For my setup, package cost, labelled as fixture work. Somebody still had to pay, whichever column won

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AlexAbbott0037
Replying to AlexAbbott0037

I'd also keep the gripper identical to make the comparison fair. It takes another variable out while you investigate tray location.

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SofiaBell0630
Replying to AlexAbbott0037

@AlexAbbott0037 An identical gripper doesn't establish fairness when its mounting arrangement favours one candidate. The adapter compromise would influence the comparison as well as the gripper itself.

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AlexAbbott0037
Replying to SofiaBell0630

@SofiaBell0630 You're right, identical tooling was too broad a rule. Match the gripping requirement, list adapter and tuning differences, and use the proposed tools when sharing one would skew the comparison.

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NadiaAbbott0030
Replying to AlexAbbott0037

Could one candidate bring a custom fixture, then? I'm unsure what you hold constant if each proposal has different tooling.

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AlexAbbott0037
Replying to NadiaAbbott0030

It can, provided the fixture belongs in the purchase scope. Use equivalent incoming samples and acceptance requirements, and account for fixture cost and changeover effort.

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SamArcher0420
Replying to AlexAbbott0037

The samples I've retained represent ordinary variation in our batch. We didn't select rejected workpieces specifically to make the demonstration difficult.

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SofiaBell0630
Replying to SamArcher0420

Then include those alongside the easy ones. A comparison made entirely of awkward samples could misrepresent the mix just as badly as the polished demo.

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SamArcher0420
Replying to SofiaBell0630

We also encounter empty pockets in normal work. I'd like to include that condition in the comparison without anybody creating an unplanned fault while the equipment moves.

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AlexAbbott0037
Replying to SamArcher0420

@SamArcher0420 Have the equipment lead define the test and expected response. The empty pocket should be prepared under safe access conditions, not created during motion.

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IsabelBennett0735
Replying to IsabelBennett0735

We also recorded how much help the second operator needed. A fast changeover with the demonstrator pointing at every setting wasn't our actual staffing plan

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SamArcher0420
Replying to IsabelBennett0735

@IsabelBennett0735 I've settled the next decision: use a common tray trial with agreed placement and intervention limits. Any choice of the arm will depend on that result; the existing videos don't settle it.

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AlexAbbott0037
Replying to SamArcher0420

A defined trial is a useful decision in itself. Making the selection depend on it matches the limits of the clips.

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