Sleeve pad comparison without an agreed viewing method

JamieAdams0121 · 2026年4月5日 09:51 UTC

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JamieAdams0121
Our supplier offers softer pads for the UR5e sleeve-transfer proposal, but the discussion starts with photographs taken under different bench lights. Some show a broad band, others a fine contact line. I need quality to define how the anodised finish is judged, alongside a complete holding and receiving-release check.

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DavidBrown0954

Were the same identified sleeves checked before and after handling, or are you comparing unrelated incoming and finished samples?

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JamieAdams0121

Same lot, not the same identified sleeves. We have retained the samples, but I cannot claim the existing images locate when any mark appeared. Quality will choose the viewing method and references.

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JamieBrooks0817

Then don't let the softer-pad offer become the assumed answer while that is happening; the broad band and fine line might not even have the same cause.

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RosaBrooks0814

Include the person's normal loading and unloading in the comparison, because a pad change is only useful within the job somebody will actually run.

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AnilBell0636

Start with the existing tool under an agreed method. Identify the sleeve before loading, follow it through the contacts and inspect it after release. If a new mark appears, have the reviewer distinguish where it first becomes visible. Then compare the proposed pad assembly through the same work, including its holding assumptions and how it lets go. Otherwise you can finish with two unrelated success claims: a prettier sleeve in one person's hands and a secure grip in another person's demonstration.

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JamieAdams0121

That combined scope is with our integrator now. Quality accepted the broad band on an incoming reference and rejected the fine line on another sleeve. The supplier has been told not to treat every band in the photographs as damage.

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DavidBrown0954

Does the proposed pad set have an actual assembly reference yet?

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JamieBrooks0817

And don't quietly change the grip depth for the soft set without showing it, because that could alter the comparison as much as the material.

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JamieAdams0121

It has a reference, David. Jamie Brooks, both candidates use the agreed held position. Their contact areas differ, and the integrator has the complete assemblies for assessment rather than a claim about softness alone.

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RosaBrooks0814

Have you included pad replacement and cleaning in the handover scope for whichever candidate is retained? Those tasks can differ even when both tools move the same sleeve.

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AnilBell0636

Rosa, yes, but I'd get the actual handling result first before drafting a maintenance lesson for a set they may reject.

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RosaBrooks0814

Agreed on the lesson; I meant knowing whether the candidate adds a task or consumable before purchasing compares its cost.

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JamieAdams0121

The trial brief includes those differences. Existing pads leave the fine unacceptable contact line on the identified checked sleeves. The proposed set has not left that line in its initial holding comparison; receiving release still needs the full check.

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JamieBrooks0817

So keep the proposed set as a candidate. Initial hold is useful, but a sleeve that sticks during release can lose the finish you just protected.

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DavidBrown0954

Has the full check used the ordinary sleeve variation selected by quality, rather than only the easiest retained example?

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JamieAdams0121

Yes. The selected range went through normal loading, holding and release with the proposed set. Quality found no new unacceptable marks under its agreed method. Integrator has the handling results for its final candidate review.

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RosaBrooks0814

What did the maintenance comparison add to the cost?

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JamieAdams0121

Identified replacement contacts and their cleaning task, both priced. Maintenance has the supplier's applicable instructions and accepts the task. It is a dearer contact set, but no extra sleeve preparation is assumed.

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AnilBell0636

Has the responsible reviewer accepted the complete candidate now? The appearance result alone should not be carrying the purchase decision.

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JamieAdams0121

Integrator accepted it for the next integration stage, with the defined assembly, handling results and maintenance scope. We selected that pad arrangement. Thank you, Anil; combining the checks stopped us buying from two unrelated demonstrations.

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