Were the same identified sleeves checked before and after handling, or are you comparing unrelated incoming and finished samples?
Sleeve pad comparison without an agreed viewing method
JamieAdams0121 · 5 Apr 2026, 09:51 UTC
20 replies
Same lot, not the same identified sleeves. We have retained the samples, but I cannot claim the existing images locate when any mark appeared. Quality will choose the viewing method and references.
14 pointsThen don't let the softer-pad offer become the assumed answer while that is happening; the broad band and fine line might not even have the same cause.
9 pointsInclude the person's normal loading and unloading in the comparison, because a pad change is only useful within the job somebody will actually run.
8 pointsStart with the existing tool under an agreed method. Identify the sleeve before loading, follow it through the contacts and inspect it after release. If a new mark appears, have the reviewer distinguish where it first becomes visible. Then compare the proposed pad assembly through the same work, including its holding assumptions and how it lets go. Otherwise you can finish with two unrelated success claims: a prettier sleeve in one person's hands and a secure grip in another person's demonstration.
16 pointsThat combined scope is with our integrator now. Quality accepted the broad band on an incoming reference and rejected the fine line on another sleeve. The supplier has been told not to treat every band in the photographs as damage.
6 pointsDoes the proposed pad set have an actual assembly reference yet?
17 pointsAnd don't quietly change the grip depth for the soft set without showing it, because that could alter the comparison as much as the material.
11 pointsIt has a reference, David. Jamie Brooks, both candidates use the agreed held position. Their contact areas differ, and the integrator has the complete assemblies for assessment rather than a claim about softness alone.
5 pointsHave you included pad replacement and cleaning in the handover scope for whichever candidate is retained? Those tasks can differ even when both tools move the same sleeve.
9 pointsRosa, yes, but I'd get the actual handling result first before drafting a maintenance lesson for a set they may reject.
11 pointsAgreed on the lesson; I meant knowing whether the candidate adds a task or consumable before purchasing compares its cost.
21 pointsThe trial brief includes those differences. Existing pads leave the fine unacceptable contact line on the identified checked sleeves. The proposed set has not left that line in its initial holding comparison; receiving release still needs the full check.
14 pointsSo keep the proposed set as a candidate. Initial hold is useful, but a sleeve that sticks during release can lose the finish you just protected.
7 pointsHas the full check used the ordinary sleeve variation selected by quality, rather than only the easiest retained example?
20 pointsYes. The selected range went through normal loading, holding and release with the proposed set. Quality found no new unacceptable marks under its agreed method. Integrator has the handling results for its final candidate review.
6 pointsWhat did the maintenance comparison add to the cost?
19 pointsIdentified replacement contacts and their cleaning task, both priced. Maintenance has the supplier's applicable instructions and accepts the task. It is a dearer contact set, but no extra sleeve preparation is assumed.
8 pointsHas the responsible reviewer accepted the complete candidate now? The appearance result alone should not be carrying the purchase decision.
21 pointsIntegrator accepted it for the next integration stage, with the defined assembly, handling results and maintenance scope. We selected that pad arrangement. Thank you, Anil; combining the checks stopped us buying from two unrelated demonstrations.
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