Why is our FR10 carton review still built around the smooth sample?

ReeceBennett0732 · 25 Aug 2026, 07:54 UTC

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ReeceBennett0732
Supplier's FR10 demo used a smooth carton. Our planned 26-carton dispatch batch includes seams, printing and different board surfaces, so I need the tooling review to cover what arrives here. A clean lift of their sample has not told maintenance which incoming cases will be troublesome.

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SamCarter1029
Replying to ReeceBennett0732

Where did the cups contact that sample relative to the seams?

9 points
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JamieAli0208
Replying to ReeceBennett0732

And was it packed like yours? A tidy empty box can answer a rather different question.

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NoahAbbott0020
Replying to ReeceBennett0732

Do not select one sample per print design and call that representative. Ask packaging and tooling which changes affect the actual contact region, filled shape and required release. Some artwork differences may be irrelevant; a nearly invisible board change may matter.

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ReeceBennett0732
Replying to SamCarter1029

Clip doesn't establish contents. Cups sit on a clear patch away from the seam. Some of ours have a tape strip through that patch. I have asked packaging to identify those conditions, not just send a colourful selection.

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HenryBaker0438
Replying to ReeceBennett0732

Can the supplier use another contact region without changing your required carton orientation?

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SamCarter1029
Replying to HenryBaker0438

That would be a candidate to assess, not proof the tape can simply be avoided.

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JamieAli0208
Replying to SamCarter1029

Sam, Henry is asking whether there is an option, not claiming it works. Worth letting them compare it before we prescribe a new tool.

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SamCarter1029
Replying to JamieAli0208

Agreed. I read more into the question than Henry wrote.

13 points
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ReeceBennett0732
Replying to HenryBaker0438

Supplier says alternate contact may fit, but needs our filled samples and dispatch orientation. Existing concept has only been demonstrated at the original contact patch. No purchase decision from that alternative yet.

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NoahAbbott0020
Replying to ReeceBennett0732

Send the destination condition too. The review needs to cover approach, supported transfer and release into the dispatch lane, including what happens on an uncertain pickup. The protective arrangements for any physical trial belong with the responsible application reviewer.

1 points
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HenryBaker0438
Replying to ReeceBennett0732

Who is choosing which incoming cartons count as ordinary acceptable packaging?

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JamieAli0208
Replying to HenryBaker0438

That matters. A crushed reject carton needn't define normal production, but quietly removing every awkward accepted carton would make the trial flattering rather than useful.

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ReeceBennett0732
Replying to JamieAli0208

Packaging owner is selecting from our accepted incoming stock. Damaged rejects remain separately identified. The sample list includes the taped contact region and rougher board we actually receive.

9 points
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SamCarter1029
Replying to ReeceBennett0732

Will the list say filled condition, not just carton size and supplier code?

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ReeceBennett0732
Replying to SamCarter1029

Yes. It records contents arrangement and presentation, with photos and physical cartons retained. We haven't sent them or run a new lift yet.

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HenryBaker0438
Replying to ReeceBennett0732

Does the alternative contact require somebody to turn each carton before loading?

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NoahAbbott0020
Replying to HenryBaker0438

If it does, include that preparation in the proposed process. A reliable pickup can still move the work onto a person who is absent from the quoted cycle time.

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JamieAli0208
Replying to ReeceBennett0732

And ask the supplier to keep failed acquisitions in the report. I would rather see where the original concept struggles than get only the best transfer from the revised contact.

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ReeceBennett0732
Replying to NoahAbbott0020

Supplier confirmed its alternative needs carton turning before presentation. We have agreed to compare that complete route with the original orientation, using our selected filled samples. Trial scope accepted by both teams; performance still untested.

4 points
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SamCarter1029
Replying to ReeceBennett0732

Is the turning work assigned in that scope?

16 points

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