What should count as dimensional acceptance after welding? (Universal Robots UR5e)

AdaBrown0912 · 3 Sept 2026, 12:21 UTC

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AdaBrown0912
I'm reviewing historical records for our planned reviewing fixtures for welded mounting brackets with Universal Robots UR5e and a gusseted steel support bracket weldment in a welded-bracket fabrication workshop. The notes describe alignment under restraint but dimensions outside the drawing requirement after release. I'd like to distinguish incoming fit-up, fixture location and final acceptance before carrying an unexplained correction routine into the new cell; no live welding adjustments are involved.

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AlexAli0211
Replying to AdaBrown0912

Does the inspection procedure define the released condition and reference supports? Check that alongside whether each old measurement says how the assembly was held.

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AdaBrown0912
Replying to AlexAli0211

@AlexAli0211 The sheets mix clamped checks and released measurements. Some don't say which. The drawing has the dimension, but our procedure leaves the support condition vague.

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AlexAli0211
Replying to AdaBrown0912

@AdaBrown0912 Have quality and the drawing owner define the acceptance condition. Group the old results by known measurement state; that should make them comparable.

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MiaCarter0992
Replying to AlexAli0211

@AlexAli0211 Grouping by restraint state won't fully establish comparability if reference supports, fixture revisions or process revisions differ or remain unknown within each group.

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AlexAli0211
Replying to MiaCarter0992

@MiaCarter0992 That's a fair correction. State grouping addresses only one source of difference; the review also needs support conditions and fixture and process references, with missing information explicitly identified.

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AdaBrown0912
Replying to AlexAli0211

Should a fixture revision remain unknown when a colleague remembers a likely version but no record confirms it? We're disagreeing about whether to fill those gaps.

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AlexAli0211
Replying to AdaBrown0912

@AdaBrown0912 Mark it unknown. You can note the recollection separately as something to investigate, but don't turn a probable revision into a recorded fact.

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GabrielAli0192
Replying to AlexAli0211

@AlexAli0211 I had a separate bracket job where inferred fixture revisions created an apparent trend. Once the original sheets established the revisions, the trend no longer held.

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NoraChan1105
Replying to GabrielAli0192

Why doesn't matching the required shape in the fixture establish that the assembly meets the dimensional requirement?

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AlexAli0211
Replying to NoraChan1105

Because the required inspection condition may be after release. Holding a shape under restraint doesn't establish the shape the assembly takes without that restraint.

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AdaBrown0912
Replying to AlexAli0211

I've had the drawing owner confirm the released inspection condition and its reference supports. Quality is adding those requirements to the sheet so the measurement state is explicit.

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MiaCarter0992
Replying to AdaBrown0912

That establishes the intended inspection basis, but the measurement conditions of unlabelled historical results still remain unknown.

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AdaBrown0912
Replying to MiaCarter0992

I'll keep those old entries flagged. The new definition helps the review; it doesn't magically repair the old paperwork.

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AlexAli0211
Replying to AdaBrown0912

For the linked samples, add incoming fit-up observations beside released results. Your welding engineer can assess any association within the documented process conditions.

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AdaBrown0912
Replying to AlexAli0211

I've found varying incoming fit-up in the traceable records for assemblies that changed shape after release. The association is visible, although it doesn't establish causation.

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GabrielAli0192
Replying to AdaBrown0912

Give your welding engineer both the pattern and its limits. A useful association doesn't need dressing up as a diagnosis to deserve attention.

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NoraChan1105
Replying to GabrielAli0192

Could adding restraint prevent the movement seen after release, or is that an unreliable assumption?

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