Our cover gained a second scratch without being touched

HazelAbbott0049 · 9 Aug 2025, 02:37 UTC

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HA
HazelAbbott0049
Two FR5 trial images. Same cover, different angle, different alleged scratches. I don't trust our labels.

18 replies

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NoraChen1192
Replying to HazelAbbott0049

Have quality examine the physical cover and mark any rejected feature's location before you use either image as a labelled example.

13 points
HA
HazelAbbott0049
Replying to NoraChen1192

Quality has the cover. The images were labelled by whoever assembled the presentation, not inspection.

7 points
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NoraChen1192
Replying to HazelAbbott0049

Then leave their scratch labels out of the training set while quality checks, although the images may still help explain the changing reflection.

25 points
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BethChan1107
Replying to HazelAbbott0049

Was the lamp moved as well as the cover? I ask because our recent comparison was much easier to understand after we stopped changing both

10 points
HA
HazelAbbott0049
Replying to BethChan1107

Lamp stayed put. Cover was hand positioned, without a nest. I should have said that.

22 points
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NoraArcher0409
Replying to HazelAbbott0049

What holds the cover in the proposed robot tool? The hand-positioned pictures may not show the amount of movement you will actually get.

17 points
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NoraChen1192
Replying to HazelAbbott0049

A repeatable presentation would help here, provided the chosen position still lets the camera see the defects quality needs it to find.

24 points
HA
HazelAbbott0049
Replying to NoraArcher0409

Edge fingers are proposed. No final tool yet. Quality found a small reject dent near one corner.

10 points
LU
LucaBrooks0787
Replying to HazelAbbott0049

Is that corner visible in the proposed grip, or are the fingers drawn across it?

6 points
HA
HazelAbbott0049
Replying to LucaBrooks0787

One finger overlaps that corner on the sketch. Tooling is reviewing it. Neither bright streak was the dent.

2 points
LU
LucaBrooks0787
Replying to HazelAbbott0049

Who can arrange a cover with a less obvious but still unacceptable dent for the comparison?

16 points
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NoraChen1192
Replying to HazelAbbott0049

And retain this cover's physical identity in the folder, so a future reader can connect the dent decision with the correct pictures.

6 points
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NoraArcher0409
Replying to HazelAbbott0049

Did quality accept the rest of that face? I would not call the streaks harmless on every sample just because this cover has a different rejection reason.

17 points
HA
HazelAbbott0049
Replying to NoraArcher0409

NoraArcher, yes, the rest passed their appearance check. Luca, quality is choosing another rejected cover.

24 points
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BethChan1107
Replying to HazelAbbott0049

Does your revised request include accepted covers too? You need to see what normal finish variation looks like, not only hunt for the dent

20 points
HA
HazelAbbott0049
Replying to BethChan1107

Yes. Quality supplied accepted variations and two rejected covers. Tool proposal still waiting on the corner clearance.

18 points
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HazelAbbott0049
Replying to LucaBrooks0787

Thanks, Luca. That finger overlap was easy to miss in the presentation image.

4 points
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NoraChen1192
Replying to HazelAbbott0049

Once tooling returns its proposal, ask for views of those same features in the actual proposed grip rather than starting another unrelated image set.

10 points

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