Before I sign off a pallet drawing full of neat rectangles

CarlaChen1184 · 30 Aug 2026, 22:19 UTC

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CarlaChen1184
Our plan for stacking packed cartons onto dispatch pallets with Fairino FR10 in a carton palletising project has a very neat alternating layer drawing. But a packed rectangular product box has a preferred support direction, and some rotated cartons sit over gaps. I want packaging support and tool access reviewed together before I accept the pattern. Where should I start?

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OmarBarnes0578
Replying to CarlaChen1184

@CarlaChen1184 Does your layer drawing show the load-bearing carton edges and pallet deck beneath them? Add those, then overlay the complete gripper outline.

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CarlaChen1184
Replying to OmarBarnes0578

We've only got top-view rectangles and a tool centre mark. The carton note specifies support direction, but the layer drawing doesn't show it.

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OmarBarnes0578
Replying to CarlaChen1184

@CarlaChen1184 Build that combined drawing for packaging and your integrator. Include a repeated, unrotated layer as a simpler candidate; it may suit the support direction better.

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LuisCarter1043
Replying to OmarBarnes0578

@OmarBarnes0578 Don't let simpler sound like approved. An unrotated layer still needs its load and stability assessed with the actual contents.

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OmarBarnes0578
Replying to LuisCarter1043

@LuisCarter1043 You're right to qualify the suggestion. I intended an alternative for comparison, with both patterns requiring packaging assessment of support and stability using the specified filled cartons.

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JoBrown0940
Replying to OmarBarnes0578

Doesn't alternating the carton directions strengthen a stack, or is that assumption too general here?

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OmarBarnes0578
Replying to JoBrown0940

@JoBrown0940 Too general. The arrangement changes where loads pass through the cartons. Your packaging reviewer needs the actual construction and support geometry to judge it.

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CarlaChen1184
Replying to OmarBarnes0578

The layer overlay shows carton edges above gaps below. That gives me something specific to mark for packaging instead of saying the pattern feels wrong.

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JaneBaker0510
Replying to CarlaChen1184

On my dispatch setup, the top view hid the pallet deck gaps completely. Adding the deck drawing changed which positions needed packaging review.

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CarlaChen1184
Replying to JaneBaker0510

@JaneBaker0510 Was your accepted pattern linked to a particular pallet specification? My drawing currently names only the overall pallet size.

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JaneBaker0510
Replying to CarlaChen1184

Specify the deck arrangement as well as the footprint. Two pallets with the same outside size needn't provide the same support underneath.

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OmarBarnes0578
Replying to CarlaChen1184

@CarlaChen1184 For access, show the whole tool beside neighbouring cartons at the corner placements. The centre mark won't reveal body or finger overlap.

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CarlaChen1184
Replying to OmarBarnes0578

With the complete outline added, my offline layout shows a tool overlap with a neighbouring carton at one corner. I'll identify that specific position for the integrator's assessment.

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LuisCarter1043
Replying to CarlaChen1184

Include approach and release, not just the final pose. Clearing the outline at the destination wouldn't establish access to it.

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CarlaChen1184
Replying to LuisCarter1043

I'll keep that review offline and include every layer. I'm not going to explore the corner with manual jogging.

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JoBrown0940
Replying to CarlaChen1184

Should an incomplete final layer be included in the pattern drawings, or is the full-layer review sufficient?

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OmarBarnes0578
Replying to JoBrown0940

If your process can produce one, include it. Packaging needs to assess the loads dispatch will actually handle, including permitted partial arrangements.

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CarlaChen1184
Replying to OmarBarnes0578

Could I ask packaging which partial arrangements they'd permit, instead of assuming every possible missing box is acceptable?

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OmarBarnes0578
Replying to CarlaChen1184

Ask packaging to establish the permitted arrangements and use those in the integration requirements. Assessment of a full pattern doesn't automatically cover every incomplete variant.

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JaneBaker0510
Replying to OmarBarnes0578

On my setup, that gave dispatch something specific to recognise. A picture of one perfect full pallet hadn't answered their partial-load question.

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