The second layer puts our carton feet above fresh air

NaomiAbbott0071 · 28 Aug 2025, 08:45 UTC

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NaomiAbbott0071
Our UR5e pallet proposal rotates the next layer very neatly, except the filled cartons carry their load through two internal end supports and those ends now sit over gaps; the gripper designer wants the same gaps for release, so I need both teams looking at one drawing before this neat picture gets approved.

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NoraChen1192
Replying to NaomiAbbott0071

Request a section through the filled carton and both layers at the troublesome position, with the opening tool included, so packaging and tooling can see the support and release conflict together.

7 points
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NaomiAbbott0071
Replying to NoraChen1192

Packaging supplied the internal support view and it makes the problem obvious, with one support almost entirely above the finger gap; I have put their drawing beside the tool-open view.

2 points
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NoraChen1192
Replying to NaomiAbbott0071

Ask them to compare a revised layer rather than approve that position independently, because accepting the carton arrangement while assuming tooling will somehow close the gap leaves the same conflict unresolved.

19 points
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PavelAdams0092
Replying to NaomiAbbott0071

Will dispatch accept another pallet orientation if that becomes one of the options, or must the label sides remain in their present direction?

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NaomiAbbott0071
Replying to PavelAdams0092

Dispatch wants the outer labels readable from the aisle, Pavel, though they will review alternatives; packaging has proposed fewer cartons without rotating the support direction, and tooling is looking at release on that version.

25 points
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LinAdams0096
Replying to NaomiAbbott0071

Does fewer cartons mean fewer on each finished pallet or just a different repeating layer, because dispatch will probably price those rather differently?

5 points
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NoraChen1192
Replying to NaomiAbbott0071

And keep the filled-carton condition unchanged when comparing those options, otherwise a different internal pack can make the revised pattern appear to solve a support problem that has merely moved.

18 points
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NaomiAbbott0071
Replying to LinAdams0096

Lin, fewer per finished pallet in the current proposal; dispatch is costing that, and the same filled carton is specified for both comparisons, Nora, with no approval of the revised handling trial yet.

16 points
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NaomiAbbott0071
Replying to NaomiAbbott0071

Tooling found enough release room in the lower-count drawing, but packaging still needs the agreed support trial with filled cartons; I have withdrawn the first alternating pattern from our decision pack.

11 points
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PavelAdams0092
Replying to NaomiAbbott0071

Did dispatch accept the extra pallet handling in its cost comparison, or is that decision still waiting alongside the support trial?

22 points

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