The complete assembly carrying the blank in its intended grip, against measured machine and parked-door geometry. Include entry, exchange and return, with the setter's separate fixture task. A toolmaker's actual held orientation can differ quite a lot from the easy line in an early sketch.
fr5 exchange drawing leaves the hand and door out
Gavin_Carr · 30 Jun 2026, 21:55 UTC
20 replies
Grip position not defined yet. We have a gripper catalogue outline and the blank drawing.
9 pointsWho can define that held position before the model is assembled?
18 pointsDoes the tool supplier's scope include the fingers and adapter, Gavin, or is somebody else expected to design those around the catalogue gripper? That ownership needs to be clear before the combined assembly arrives.
8 pointsThe installed opening needs an owner too. I would have the machine lead identify the door condition in the survey rather than let a generic open-door symbol become the reference for the tool supplier.
6 pointsAnd the person changing the fixture needs space. The robot's loading point isn't their whole task.
-8 pointsOliver, do you mean space during the automatic cycle, or space for changeover with the cell in its agreed condition? I'd keep those cases distinct rather than imply two activities share the opening.
24 pointsChangeover, Chloe. The setter still needs a usable route then; I wasn't suggesting simultaneous work.
11 pointsJoel and Clara, tool supplier owns fingers, adapter and grip. Naomi, machine lead owns the installed survey.
5 pointsWill maintenance get the final assembly reference too, not only its picture?
15 pointsJules, that belongs in the handover. Gavin, I would also retain any different loading and fixture-change conditions on the same revision, so a later reviewer can see which movement each clearance refers to
13 pointsMaintenance will get the identified assembly. Fixture change uses a trolley at the front, separate from automatic exchange.
4 pointsThen include the trolley movement, not merely a rectangle where it parks. The actual turning and fixture-handling route may be the limiting space, even while the final parked position looks clear.
13 pointsHas the door been measured yet, Gavin?
20 pointsSurvey booked, not done. Tool supplier has acknowledged the grip request but hasn't returned it.
18 pointsThose are still inputs to obtain, then. Does the integrator own combining them into the route assessment, rather than expecting you to decide whether the separate drawings fit?
18 pointsClara's ownership point matters; accurate component dimensions can still be assembled using incompatible assumptions about the held blank or door position.
8 pointsIntegrator owns the combined assessment now. No alternate base position or grip proposed while those inputs remain missing.
25 pointsThat is a clearer request. It hasn't established clearance yet, which is fine for a discussion about what to ask before choosing the arm.
9 pointsKeep purchasing at candidate, then; an acknowledged drawing request isn't the drawing or its assessment.
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