The panel seal report never counts the sheets

NinaAdams0153 · 20 Aug 2026, 16:08 UTC

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NinaAdams0153
I need evidence that our proposed UR5e tool delivers one supported access panel from the stack into the assembly fixture. The supplier's bench report establishes a vacuum seal on thin sheet metal, not separation or supported arrival

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TobyAllen0318
Replying to NinaAdams0153

Was the reported sample lifted from a stack, or presented alone to the tool?

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HazelBrooks0832
Replying to NinaAdams0153

And does the report show the panel edges during transfer, or only the cups?

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CarlaBrooks0836
Replying to TobyAllen0318

I have seen a single-sheet demonstration accepted as a stack trial because both used the same part number. Ask for the source condition in the report, not just confirmation that they used your panel; stacked surfaces can behave differently from an isolated sample.

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SamBell0681
Replying to TobyAllen0318

Would checking the vacuum value tell them if there were two? I understand that it shows something about the seal, but I do not know whether an extra sheet would change that reading reliably.

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TobyAllen0318
Replying to SamBell0681

Not by itself; a sealed top sheet can carry another beneath it, so single-sheet confirmation needs suitable independent evidence.

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NinaAdams0153
Replying to CarlaBrooks0836

The supplier confirms it was one panel presented alone, and the close-up hides most edges. I have asked them to propose stack separation and count confirmation, not repeat that clip.

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HazelBrooks0832
Replying to NinaAdams0153

Keep support in the request too; solving count doesn't stop one thin panel flexing.

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CarlaBrooks0836
Replying to NinaAdams0153

For the trial, describe the stack condition you actually intend to receive, including relevant surface variation and how it is replenished. I would also ask how an uncertain pickup is contained and identified without making the operator reach under a suspended panel to count it.

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SamBell0681
Replying to TobyAllen0318

Thanks, Toby. I was treating vacuum as a count measurement when it was only evidence about contact with the upper sheet.

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NinaAdams0153
Replying to CarlaBrooks0836

Their proposed trial includes our representative stack and a separate thickness check, but the note only describes its nominal single-sheet result. I cannot tell what it does with a doubtful reading.

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TobyAllen0318
Replying to NinaAdams0153

Ask for the expected discrimination and uncertainty with your actual thickness range, plus the defined response when no reliable decision is available.

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HazelBrooks0832
Replying to NinaAdams0153

A named sensor isn't the evidence; can they show the troublesome samples being distinguished?

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CarlaBrooks0836
Replying to HazelBrooks0832

Hazel is right, but do not invent a troublesome sample by handling sheets unsafely. Let the tooling team define controlled representative single and multiple-sheet cases and evaluate the proposed detection arrangement within the assessed trial setup.

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SamBell0681
Replying to NinaAdams0153

Does the thickness check happen while the tool supports the sheet, or after it has been placed somewhere? I am trying to understand where the doubtful panel would be when someone needs to deal with it.

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NinaAdams0153
Replying to SamBell0681

They have revised the proposal: supported checking before entry to the assembly fixture, with an unresolved result held out of normal delivery. The tooling team is defining that recovery; it is not a manual count under the tool.

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HazelBrooks0832
Replying to NinaAdams0153

Did they finally include a view of the whole panel at release?

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NinaAdams0153
Replying to HazelBrooks0832

Yes. The controlled trial distinguished the documented single and double samples, but a single panel flexed into the fixture lip during release. That is now a support conflict, not a count failure.

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CarlaBrooks0836
Replying to NinaAdams0153

Keep the count findings limited to those recorded conditions and take the lip contact back to tooling. Changing the support or placement could alter the measurement presentation as well, so the next trial should not inherit a blanket count pass from this one.

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NinaAdams0153
Replying to CarlaBrooks0836

Agreed; I have not accepted the tool, and the next proposal must address the lip contact with its checking arrangement still represented.

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SamBell0681
Replying to NinaAdams0153

That answers where the remaining work is. Who will demonstrate recovery from an unresolved thickness result when the support proposal changes?

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