How representative is one good vacuum sample? (Universal Robots UR5e)

AmyBrooks0815 · 31 Aug 2026, 05:17 UTC

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AmyBrooks0815
Our planned batch of 144 involves Universal Robots UR5e handling a lightweight packed carton during moving packed cartons from a packing bench in a small carton packing workshop. I'm reviewing the vacuum tooling because the supplier demonstrated it on a smooth sample, whereas our incoming packaging varies in seams, print and board surface. I'd like evidence covering those conditions before accepting the concept

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JackBrooks0863
Replying to AmyBrooks0815

@AmyBrooks0815 Begin with the proposed cup footprints overlaid on the permitted seam and print positions. Can you pair that drawing with labelled samples of your actual carton variations?

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AmyBrooks0815
Replying to JackBrooks0863

The cup sketch assumes a clear patch. Our packaging drawing lets a seam enter that patch, and the demo sample doesn't have it there

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JackBrooks0863
Replying to AmyBrooks0815

@AmyBrooks0815 Give the vacuum specialist the overlay and representative samples. One option for assessment is a revised footprint that avoids the permitted seam region.

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WillBrown0922
Replying to JackBrooks0863

That option addresses a possible contact-edge problem, but the board itself may leak. The surface variation in the opening needs assessment beyond seam avoidance.

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JackBrooks0863
Replying to WillBrown0922

@WillBrown0922 You're right; my suggestion covered only part of the question. The assessment should distinguish leakage through the board from leakage around the contact on the representative samples.

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AmyBrooks0815
Replying to JackBrooks0863

Would you organise samples by carton supplier or surface finish? We've got more than one approved source, which doesn't help the tidy comparison

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JackBrooks0863
Replying to AmyBrooks0815

Keep supplier and surface finish as separate sample details, because neither completely describes the other. Record the seam arrangement for each sample as well.

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AmyBrooks0815
Replying to JackBrooks0863

I've settled the evidence request: actual carton variations paired with the proposed contact layout for specialist assessment. That answers my planning question; accepting the pickup concept still depends on the results

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JackBrooks0863
Replying to AmyBrooks0815

You've a defined evidence request for the actual packaging, with acceptance left dependent on the specialist's findings.

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