Who can issue one drawing with both sets of comments?
Our neat FR5 layer drawing puts carton supports over air
TheoAllen0323 · 25 Jul 2026, 21:54 UTC
19 replies
Packaging needs to specify the permitted support before the layout is accepted. Do you have a carton drawing that identifies those regions, or only an arrow saying which way up it goes?
6 pointsThe tool review needs more than a reach point. Ask for the complete tool and held carton through placement and withdrawal. I would want to see what happens beside a carton already placed.
15 pointsOwen, should that include the order in which the row fills?
-2 pointsYes. The nearby obstacles change as the pallet fills. An isolated placement drawing could be correct and still fail to describe the operation you intend.
16 pointsChen, I have a supplier note on support direction, not a marked support footprint. Oscar, the integrator owns the layer drawing. I've asked them and packaging to agree one revision instead of passing comments through me.
6 pointsThat note is a starting point, but someone with responsibility for the carton needs to interpret it for this load. Otherwise the integrator will be left guessing how much unsupported area you will tolerate.
7 pointsPackaging has marked the relevant regions now. The integrator's proposed shift improves support but crowds the release position. We have a joint view at last... and it makes the disagreement easier to see rather than making it disappear.
16 pointsIs the new release position still a proposal, or has anyone ordered tooling around it?
12 pointsProposal only. No tool order based on that shift. Someone has suggested dropping a carton from the row, which dispatch understandably wants to price before we get fond of it.
0 pointsDoes the changed row support the next layer correctly?
20 pointsHazel's question matters to the cost comparison too. A reduced count on one row might force changes above it, so dispatch needs the resulting pallet quantity and handling, not just the missing carton count.
18 pointsCould the tool concept change instead? I cannot tell whether its current width is essential, and fewer cartons is already receiving more attention than the alternative.
1 pointsTool changes also need someone assigned to maintain them. Include that in the comparison.
16 pointsOwen, fair point. We haven't established the tool width is fixed. I've asked for that alternative too. This is exactly why I wanted the people together; I was about to carry the reduced-count option away as the answer.
12 pointsWho is bringing representative filled cartons to that review? A packaging assessment based on the actual load would be more useful than another meeting around the empty sample box.
13 pointsI'm arranging the samples with dispatch. Packaging hasn't approved a stack, and the tool alternative isn't drawn yet. We have stopped the original pattern being treated as final, but that is all I can claim today.
11 pointsThank you for saying which decisions remain open. Easier to follow now.
15 pointsWhen the tool alternative arrives, does its maintenance space appear on the drawing too?
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