Our UR5e bush-loading plan has two incompatible ready events

SaraAbbott0026 · 12 Jan 2026, 07:53 UTC

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SaraAbbott0026
The machine supplier uses ready for request received. Our UR5e integrator uses it for loading area available. Both have approved the same glossary sentence. I need an agreed sequence, not a third definition.

15 replies

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JaneBarnes0597
Replying to SaraAbbott0026

What do both expect when the request arrives but the area is still unavailable?

23points
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SaraAbbott0026
Replying to JaneBarnes0597

Machine side expects receipt to be recognised immediately. Integrator expects to wait for availability. Neither disputes the other event; they have put the same name on both.

6points
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LiamAdams0142
Replying to SaraAbbott0026

Have both authors draw that one case with separate receipt and availability states, including who sets and clears each. Ask what lets the requesting side know its request was received. Agreement on a word does not establish agreement on the exchange.

14points
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RachelBrooks0870
Replying to SaraAbbott0026

Our screen once showed a lit request button and people read it as someone accepting the job. No one was being daft; it looked like confirmation. I'd want the operator's view beside the sequence, so the two events aren't separated in the developers' heads and merged again on the panel.

0points
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NoraArcher0409
Replying to LiamAdams0142

Who handles a request that gets no receipt, Sara? I would put that case on the review sheet rather than let it become the operator's unanswered phone call later.

20points
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AdaBrown0912
Replying to RachelBrooks0870

I'd read a green ready lamp as permission to continue. Worth catching on paper first.

0points
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LindaBriggs
Replying to RachelBrooks0870

Could the authors walk a delayed receipt and a received-but-unavailable example using only the proposed operator page, without explaining the missing steps aloud as they go?

7points
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PriyaAli0220
Replying to LindaBriggs

Does that page actually say waiting for receipt or waiting for space?

11points
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IslaBailey
Replying to PriyaAli0220

I don't want every internal state on the main page, but those two waits deserve different words. Otherwise the person covering the job will call the same person for two different problems and get bounced between teams.

23points
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HanaAllen0274
Replying to LindaBriggs

Stepping back from a walkthrough made ours look much less finished. I kept supplying the missing sentence without noticing. Linda's paper test is worth doing with somebody who hasn't sat through all the interface meetings, even if the authors do the technical cases first.

10points
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AaronBrooks0784
Replying to LiamAdams0142

What survives a restart on either side?

7points
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SaraAbbott0026
Replying to AaronBrooks0784

Joint sequence now separates receipt, availability and completion, with ownership and clearing stated. No-receipt handling and each side's restart are included. Controls owns the unresolved-request decision with the shift lead; the operator page distinguishes the two waits without listing every internal signal.

8points
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RachelBrooks0870
Replying to SaraAbbott0026

Did the covering operator understand those two waits without prompting, Sara? I'd be interested whether their next question was about what the state meant or who to contact.

18points
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SaraAbbott0026
Replying to RachelBrooks0870

They distinguished the waits but could not find the contact for missing receipt. We added that ownership beside the message and repeated the walkthrough. It now gives them an answer without a developer standing nearby.

3points
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SaraAbbott0026
Replying to SaraAbbott0026

Both teams have signed the revised sequence and operator explanation. Implementation and its verification are the next work package; this agreement covers the ordinary job interface, with the engineered safety functions handled separately. The contradictory ready definition is retired.

9points

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