How do I decide whether another pouch guide is worth building?

PriyaIO · 24 Aug 2025, 04:29 UTC

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PriyaIO
Our FR10 sample-bag transfer works once somebody spreads the contents and lays each bag into a guide. Changing the bag seal has made that preparation slower, and I am being asked to design another insert. I can write the sequence. I cannot yet justify the whole process. Too much of the estimate is based on my own unpaid trial support, which will become somebody else's interruption after handover. What comparison would let us make a sensible stop or continue decision?

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LeoChen1145
Replying to PriyaIO

Time a complete order both ways, including bag preparation, changes, failed picks and clearing the bench afterwards. I'd stop counting your support as free too. A process that needs you hovering is buying your time whether the estimate admits it or not

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PriyaIO
Replying to LeoChen1145

We have manual timings, but the robot trial only measured prepared bag to tray. I will run the comparison with the same incoming bags and the person who normally packs them.

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LeoChen1145
Replying to PriyaIO

Pick an ordinary awkward order, not the one bag that makes your guide look brilliant. And decide beforehand how much setup and attendance you can afford, otherwise the next nearly-working insert will always look worth another go

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PriyaIO
Replying to LeoChen1145

We compared a normal mixed order. Presentation consumed most of the handling time; it also needed me to settle several uncertain pickups. The operator preferred the manual arrangement, particularly when changing bag sizes.

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KaiBrooks0802
Replying to PriyaIO

Consider whether a stable subset has a worthwhile independent case, but do not assign the difficult products to manual work and then omit that remaining workload from the overall comparison.

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LeoChen1145
Replying to KaiBrooks0802

Could be worth checking a stable subset on paper. I wouldn't build another insert first. You already have a fair bit of evidence that the general-purpose bag scheme is expensive to babysit

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OscarCarter0967
Replying to PriyaIO

A new guide might remove a specific preparation task. Which task is it intended to remove? Without that answer, it is difficult to estimate whether its design and changeover cost is justified.

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PriyaIO
Replying to OscarCarter0967

Oscar, it would locate the wider seal but would not spread the contents. Kai and Leo, we will cost one stable subset without further tooling first. The mixed-bag proposal is stopped; the manual bench remains in use.

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LeoChen1145
Replying to PriyaIO

Useful boundary. Leave the guide on the shelf while you price it; having an empty space on the bench can be more informative than another afternoon making the trial behave

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