Can we stop approving these lovely carton rectangles for a minute?

KaiArcher0367 · 8 Jul 2026, 21:43 UTC

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KaiArcher0367
I've marked the bearing areas on our FR5 pallet drawing, same thing I suggested in another thread, and the rotated cases now visibly sit over gaps. These are corrugated component cases with a preferred support direction. Packaging and tool access need looking at together. I'm getting 'but it fits' from planning and 'we can reach it' from tooling. Neither is the question I asked. Has anyone managed this review without commissioning three different drawings that disagree?

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AaronBrooks0784
Replying to KaiArcher0367

Put the bearing marks on the shared drawing. Ask packaging to comment there, not separately.

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KaiArcher0367
Replying to AaronBrooks0784

They're on it already Aaron. I need a way to compare options on that drawing, not another version of the same warning.

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MayaBrooks0823
Replying to KaiArcher0367

Try asking tooling for a different opening direction. Could preserve the count without rotating those cases. Only a candidate, I'm not saying their current hand can do it.

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CallumChen1143
Replying to MayaBrooks0823

We lost a supposedly better layer when changeovers were included, so I'd keep the current arrangement on the sheet beside each proposal, with the same filled cases and the real packing order rather than compare two tidy finished pictures

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RebeccaBennett0778
Replying to KaiArcher0367

A rough sequence sketch costs less than a finished drawing. Number the placements. Show when the neighbours appear.

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NoahAli0194
Replying to RebeccaBennett0778

Rebecca, include the half-finished load too. That's what somebody has to recognise coming back from a stop.

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FelixBrooks0806
Replying to CallumChen1143

I would be wary of making a sheet option disappear just because it loses a few seconds. In our measurements, the fast-looking arrangement was not automatically the best overall job. That doesn't establish anything about your cartons, but it does make me want packaging's assessment before deciding which candidate is too slow.

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CallumChen1143
Replying to FelixBrooks0806

Felix, I meant count the work, not reject sheets; if someone has to fetch and replenish them, that belongs in the comparison alongside any support benefit

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KaiArcher0367
Replying to RebeccaBennett0778

Rebecca's numbered sketch helped, cheers. One place that's clear in the finished drawing is blocked by its neighbour at the proposed release step. Tooling has agreed it's a candidate change, not a signed-off route.

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MayaBrooks0823
Replying to KaiArcher0367

Does reversing that bit of the order help? Or does it just move the blocked release somewhere else?

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KaiArcher0367
Replying to MayaBrooks0823

It moves the problem. We're keeping two options for review now: changed tool opening, or an arrangement with sheets. Neither has packaging approval yet.

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FelixBrooks0806
Replying to CallumChen1143

Callum, fair enough, I read a preference into your post that wasn't there. The refill work is exactly the sort of thing I'd want recorded rather than silently assigned to whoever is nearest.

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NoahAli0194
Replying to KaiArcher0367

And who clears an abandoned partial pallet under the agreed procedure? Don't leave that for training week.

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RebeccaBennett0778
Replying to KaiArcher0367

Keep the rejected sequence sketch. Otherwise someone can rediscover the same attractive finished picture at the next cost review.

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KaiArcher0367
Replying to RebeccaBennett0778

Both options are on one review sheet now, including replenishment and partial loads. Still waiting on packaging. At least we're finally arguing about the same arrangement.

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