Bright streaks move when we present the part differently (Fairino FR10)

SaraAli0200 · 30 Aug 2026, 03:28 UTC

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SaraAli0200
Our planned checking cosmetic metal surfaces with a fixed camera in a precision metal-parts inspection area has Fairino FR10 presenting a reflective aluminium bezel to a fixed camera. The example images contain bright streaks that shift with small presentation differences, yet those streaks are being labelled as scratches. Before commissioning, I'd like to establish reliable references and image conditions for threshold tuning.

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AnikaAbbott0073
Replying to SaraAli0200

Were those scratches confirmed on the physical samples using your agreed appearance method? Start by linking each image to a sample and its inspection result.

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SaraAli0200
Replying to AnikaAbbott0073

@AnikaAbbott0073 I've found that some labels were assigned from the images themselves. The samples are still available, but those labels have no corresponding physical inspection results, making the reference circular.

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AnikaAbbott0073
Replying to SaraAli0200

@SaraAli0200 Mark those labels uncertain and have the samples inspected properly. Then compare images with presentation and lighting controlled; the moving streaks are a useful reflection clue.

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SaraBrooks0809
Replying to AnikaAbbott0073

That clue needs a limit: presentation can also change how a real scratch appears. Movement in the image isn't enough to reclassify the sample as acceptable.

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AnikaAbbott0073
Replying to SaraBrooks0809

Correct. I meant a reason to investigate the imaging, not a new defect label. Physical acceptance stays with the agreed inspection method.

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LuisBrown0956
Replying to AnikaAbbott0073

Should uncertain images be treated as acceptable, or kept somewhere separate while their status is established?

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AnikaAbbott0073
Replying to LuisBrown0956

Retain their sample identities and undecided status. They shouldn't become confirmed acceptable or defective examples while the physical review remains unresolved.

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SaraAli0200
Replying to AnikaAbbott0073

@AnikaAbbott0073 I've checked the image folders and found that exposure and presentation both changed between them. Their improved appearance can't be attributed to either change individually.

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ImranBrooks0827
Replying to SaraAli0200

On my inspection setup, a folder called 'better lighting' also contained easier samples. The folder name was doing a lot of unearned work.

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SaraAli0200
Replying to ImranBrooks0827

@ImranBrooks0827 Which details did you retain with each image? I can record sample identity and settings, but I'd like a practical record people will actually maintain.

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ImranBrooks0827
Replying to SaraAli0200

@SaraAli0200 For my separate setup, sample identity, exposure, lighting arrangement and presentation condition were the useful essentials. They let us understand comparisons without relying on recollection.

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AnikaAbbott0073
Replying to ImranBrooks0827

Use those details to ask your vision specialist for controlled comparisons on representative surfaces. Keep the sample set fixed when assessing an acquisition change.

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LuisBrown0956
Replying to AnikaAbbott0073

@AnikaAbbott0073 Could using a learned inspection model remove the need to resolve the lighting variation?

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AnikaAbbott0073
Replying to LuisBrown0956

It still needs trustworthy labels and representative evaluation. A different model doesn't establish whether your reference scratches are real or your acquisition comparison is fair.

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SaraBrooks0809
Replying to AnikaAbbott0073

Keep physical sample identity in mind when forming evaluation sets. Different images of a sample used for tuning don't provide an independent sample-level evaluation.

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SaraAli0200
Replying to SaraBrooks0809

I'll group images by physical sample before dividing the tuning and evaluation sets. The current filenames wouldn't reliably expose the same sample appearing in both.

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SaraAli0200
Replying to SaraAli0200

I can explain the reference uncertainty better, although the example images still don't support a performance judgement. Physical classification and image-condition comparisons remain outstanding.

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AnikaAbbott0073
Replying to SaraAli0200

@SaraAli0200 That follows from the reference gap. Explaining it more clearly helps, but the images still can't carry a performance claim.

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