I can't choose a pallet pattern from the carton count alone

GabrielChen1149 · 3 Jun 2025, 02:42 UTC

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GabrielChen1149
Our FR10 proposal gets more cartons on a pallet by rotating the second layer, but that moves the supported ends above gaps; how do I compare that with the lower-count pattern without making up a value for carton strength?

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FelixAdams0110
Replying to GabrielChen1149

Don't invent one, let packaging assess the real filled cases in each arrangement and give you the conditions their answer applies to, because a high score in your spreadsheet won't hold a carton up

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GabrielChen1149
Replying to FelixAdams0110

Packaging wants sample stacks, which I can arrange, but the tool supplier wants one pattern chosen before they'll check the fingers

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ElliotBaker0509
Replying to GabrielChen1149

They can surely flag an obvious access clash on two sketches without designing the whole gripper twice? I'd ask what they actually need paid for at this stage.

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GabrielChen1149
Replying to ElliotBaker0509

They'll do an outline review of both, not a detailed tool design, which is enough to stop us picking something they already know won't work

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AaronArcher0349
Replying to GabrielChen1149

Put pallet and transport costs beside each option. Fewer cartons may cost more to ship. I would leave packaging approval as a requirement, not convert it into points.

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OwenAbbott0051
Replying to GabrielChen1149

We found our comparison had different incoming conditions attached to each proposal. Do both patterns use the same carton and packing revision?

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GabrielChen1149
Replying to OwenAbbott0051

Yes, same current carton and insert, and packaging has confirmed the samples match; I've kept empty display cases away from the review this time

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FelixAdams0110
Replying to GabrielChen1149

Bring whoever actually dispatches the part-filled pallets too, they may be more interested in your awkward final few boxes than the perfect full stack on the front page

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ElliotBaker0509
Replying to GabrielChen1149

Also, can either option use the pallets you already buy? A special pallet can turn a small layout win into a regular purchasing nuisance.

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GabrielChen1149
Replying to ElliotBaker0509

Both fit the current pallet footprint, though I haven't checked how the carton supports line up with its deck boards

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AaronArcher0349
Replying to GabrielChen1149

Footprint alone leaves that unanswered. Include the actual board layout in the support drawing.

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FelixAdams0110
Replying to AaronArcher0349

And don't solve the upper layer then forget the first layer, the pallet itself seems to vanish from these discussions remarkably often

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GabrielChen1149
Replying to AaronArcher0349

Our first-layer pads line up on one pallet type in stores but not the other, so I'm glad I hadn't circulated the cost comparison as finished

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ElliotBaker0509
Replying to GabrielChen1149

How are the two pallet types identified when they reach packing? I'm wondering whether the operator could tell which one your approved drawing expects.

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GabrielChen1149
Replying to ElliotBaker0509

Different stock references, but no clear distinction on the packing screen, so the packing lead wants that sorted before either arrangement is introduced

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OwenAbbott0051
Replying to GabrielChen1149

I would include the actual pallets in the sample review, with those references attached. It is easy for a correct stock code to accompany the wrong physical example.

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AaronArcher0349
Replying to GabrielChen1149

Update the cost for the specified pallet only. Using the cheaper mixed-stock average would understate the arrangement you are actually considering.

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GabrielChen1149
Replying to AaronArcher0349

Thanks, Aaron, that average was exactly what I had used; I've changed the comparison and left both patterns pending the packaging and tool reviews

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