Point adjustments are hiding something in our handling setup

LinBrooks0792 · 6 Aug 2026, 04:59 UTC

Reply to discussion
LI
LinBrooks0792
We keep nudging pickup points when our Fairino FR5 setup gets unreliable at tray loading with a small polymer housing in a compact parts transfer workshop. The tray looks like it's in the same place, but the grip seems less square. I'm suspicious of all these tweaks. What should I inspect before blaming the arm or reteaching everything?

21 replies

LO
LouisBell0659
Replying to LinBrooks0792

Look at the relationship between the workpiece and fixture before contact, then during gripping. Can your existing observations show when the change in angle begins?

8 points
LI
LinBrooks0792
Replying to LouisBell0659

In the footage, it sits consistently in the checked fixture and turns during gripping. So the crooked position isn't there at the start.

10 points
LO
LouisBell0659
Replying to LinBrooks0792

Preserve the current settings and pause further nudges. Have maintenance inspect finger mounting, contact surfaces and tray seating under the proper isolation procedure, using that observation to guide the checks.

13 points
LI
LinBrooks0792
Replying to LouisBell0659

@LouisBell0659 I've checked the maintenance history and found a pad replacement preceding the initial pickup-point correction. That establishes a relevant sequence of changes to investigate.

0 points
LO
LouisBell0659
Replying to LinBrooks0792

@LinBrooks0792 That sounds like the pad replacement caused it. Check the installation against the specified arrangement.

16 points
RE
ReeceArcher0384
Replying to LouisBell0659

Timing isn't enough to call it the cause. Check the pads, yes, but don't let one maintenance entry explain away fixture variation.

25 points
LO
LouisBell0659
Replying to ReeceArcher0384

You're right; the history supports a check, not a conclusion. Inspect the pad installation and gripping surfaces while retaining tray location in the investigation.

2 points
CA
CalebChan1102
Replying to LouisBell0659

On my own setup, we found worn contact surfaces and inconsistent tray seating together. Fixing only the pickup point made the symptoms move around

12 points
LI
LinBrooks0792
Replying to CalebChan1102

@CalebChan1102 How did you keep those two effects apart? Ours already has enough point edits to make the history messy.

6 points
CA
CalebChan1102
Replying to LinBrooks0792

We kept a known reference configuration and had maintenance check one condition at a time. We didn't roll back points blindly after finding wear

18 points
HA
HanaBarnes0535
Replying to CalebChan1102

@CalebChan1102 Would restoring the initial taught positions be appropriate after inspecting the tool, or might those positions no longer correspond to the actual setup?

16 points
LO
LouisBell0659
Replying to HanaBarnes0535

The original points are only a suitable reference if the confirmed tooling, frames and presentation still match. Have the responsible technician review those relationships before planning a supervised check.

9 points
LI
LinBrooks0792
Replying to LouisBell0659

@LouisBell0659 We haven't verified that match yet. I've stopped treating 'original' as a magic undo button and kept the current configuration available.

14 points
RE
ReeceArcher0384
Replying to LinBrooks0792

Good. Also, 'tray looks the same' isn't a seating measurement. Your pre-contact observation helps, but it doesn't cover every tray replacement.

11 points
LI
LinBrooks0792
Replying to ReeceArcher0384

@ReeceArcher0384 The supervised comparison found seating variation as well as worn gripping surfaces. So we really do have more than one thing to investigate.

4 points
HA
HanaBarnes0535
Replying to LinBrooks0792

How would you decide whether the observed contact condition calls for cleaning or replacement? Is there a criterion beyond whether the surface looks worn?

20 points
LO
LouisBell0659
Replying to HanaBarnes0535

The maintenance decision should follow the tool's documented criteria and qualified assessment. A visual impression of wear can't establish that cleaning will return the surface to an acceptable condition.

20 points
CA
CalebChan1102
Replying to LouisBell0659

I kept photos of my setup's contact surfaces with the maintenance notes. They helped explain what had changed without relying on 'it used to look better'

22 points
LI
LinBrooks0792
Replying to CalebChan1102

Given the seating variation, should the supervised validation include normal tray removal and replacement rather than only transfers from one undisturbed tray?

14 points
LO
LouisBell0659
Replying to LinBrooks0792

Yes, include ordinary replacement in the agreed supervised plan, with representative workpieces. Record grip condition and placement, along with any assistance needed.

20 points

Add to the discussion

Welcome to Application Robot

Everyone can read the forum. Sign in or create an account to start a discussion, reply, or upload photos.

Forgot your password?

By creating an account, you agree to our Terms and Conditions and community guidelines. Read our Privacy Policy for how your information is handled.