Ask them to show the stack preparation and complete panel transfer in the proposal, including the receiving tray; their bench seal leaves several actual jobs without an owner.
Cannot choose our FR10 panel tool from one seal on the bench
ZaraBrown0917 · 12 Dec 2025, 04:13 UTC
18 replies
They say an operator will separate the panels. That was not in the quotation, and our operator already covers another bench.
17 pointsCan that person prepare a full representative order without abandoning the other bench, or is the plan quietly borrowing another pair of hands?
10 pointsWhat supports the panel between the cups during the proposed movement?
11 pointsAnd ask who separated the demonstration sample, because that preparation may be rather more careful than ordinary incoming panels receive.
22 pointsHenry, nothing else is shown. Sam, the demonstrator separated the sample by hand. Hassan, I have not measured our operator doing that work yet.
-2 pointsSo keep manual preparation as a costed option, not a free assumption; it still leaves Henry's support question, even if one person can reliably separate every panel.
15 pointsYes. I'm not against a manual step, I'm against assigning it to someone already busy and then saying the robot freed them up.
7 pointsDoes the receiving tray support the panel before the tool releases it?
11 pointsThe current drawing stops with the panel above the tray. I have asked for the landing, support and release sequence, not just another view of the cups.
23 pointsA useful place for the tray designer to join the discussion, since the panel has to arrive in a shape that the tray can actually receive.
23 pointsTray designer is joining. The tool supplier is also proposing a single-panel check, but has supplied only a sensor description so far.
18 pointsAsk what that check can distinguish and what happens when it cannot decide; naming a sensor does not tell your operator what to do with a suspect pickup.
22 pointsHas anyone assessed ordinary panel variation in that proposed check?
12 pointsNot yet, Henry. We have retained panels from two incoming stacks for the review, including the ones that were awkward to separate. No trial result.
20 pointsZara, will the preparation comparison include putting those awkward panels somewhere and getting the next stack, rather than just timing the easy separations?
22 pointsHassan, yes, that is the bit I would put beside the supplier's preparation claim before accepting an operator-time estimate.
9 pointsBoth are included in the study request. I've left the staffing saving blank until we measure it, and the tool choice open until support, release and single-panel handling are reviewed.
6 pointsDiscussion closed
This discussion is closed to new replies after six months without activity. Last activity: .