the turned cartons fit until we draw their contents

JoAllen0331 · 10 Dec 2025, 14:50 UTC

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JoAllen0331
Our UR5e pallet sketch used empty carton outlines. Adding the packed construction shows the end supports over the gaps in the lower row. Tooling wants those gaps for withdrawal. I need the support and access questions settled together before this turns into an operator workaround.

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SaraChan1070
Replying to JoAllen0331

Can packaging and tooling review the same sections through the packed cartons, lower layer and actual pallet, with the complete fingers shown through placement and withdrawal? The top view alone leaves the disagreement hidden.

17 points
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JoAllen0331
Replying to SaraChan1070

They have one shared section now. Packaging's proposed shift closes the finger exit. Tooling has asked whether a separator is acceptable, but no separator specification is proposed.

4 points
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FarahCarter1026
Replying to JoAllen0331

Ask for a defined candidate, not an imaginary sheet. Packaging needs to assess the support it actually provides, and somebody needs to explain how it gets into the stack.

17 points
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PavelBarnes0527
Replying to JoAllen0331

I would compare a different pattern as well, because the sheet can bring its own feeding and storage problem even if it sorts the bearing gap

21 points
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SaraChan1070
Replying to FarahCarter1026

If the sheet is placed manually, where would the person do that and how would the interruption be managed? That is part of the proposed operation, not a minor note on the material list.

14 points
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LeoChan1058
Replying to PavelBarnes0527

Pavel's alternative deserves a proper comparison. Fewer cartons per layer may cost extra handling, but extra sheet work can also be substantial. I would not rank either from capacity alone.

8 points
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JoAllen0331
Replying to SaraChan1070

Sheet placement is manual in the suggestion. No location or method agreed. Integrator is comparing that complete option with a lower-count pattern, including dispatch's handling time.

4 points
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PavelBarnes0527
Replying to JoAllen0331

Good. Do the cases still need labels facing a particular way, Jo, or can the alternative turn them freely? I wouldn't draw away a dispatch requirement by accident.

16 points
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JoAllen0331
Replying to PavelBarnes0527

Dispatch needs a readable label on the accessible outer face. It doesn't demand one fixed direction for every carton. They've marked which faces matter for full and partial pallets.

13 points
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FarahCarter1026
Replying to JoAllen0331

Keep that marked requirement with the pattern options. 'Labels outward' on its own could make the next designer repeat the very rotation you're trying to reconsider.

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LeoChan1058
Replying to JoAllen0331

Does the lower-count option use the present finger concept, or does it need another tool too? That affects the comparison before anyone talks about it as the simpler choice.

17 points
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JoAllen0331
Replying to LeoChan1058

Present concept, but changed spacing under review. No released finger design exists yet. The comparison includes its proposed adjustment and identification, not only the carton count.

23 points
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SaraChan1070
Replying to JoAllen0331

Have the setter review that adjustment and the partial-pallet handling before the handover scope is priced. The eventual instructions need to describe one approved arrangement, not leave them choosing between these provisional drawings.

10 points
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PavelBarnes0527
Replying to JoAllen0331

And don't lose the reason the original pattern failed. A full layer that looks wonderfully dense will remain tempting when somebody only sees the top view again.

13 points

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