The smooth demo carton is not the carton my UR5e will handle

JaneCarter1032 · 31 Jul 2026, 19:24 UTC

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JaneCarter1032
I am selecting tooling for 154 planned closed-carton transfers between packing stations with a UR5e. The supplier demonstrated a smooth carton. Our lightweight packed cartons vary in seams, print and board surface. What evidence would make the tooling choice defensible for those actual cartons?

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AmaraArcher0426
Replying to JaneCarter1032

Were your packed samples in the demonstration at all?

14 points
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SamAdams0159
Replying to JaneCarter1032

Send a small, identified selection spanning the awkward surfaces, not just the neatest box from stores. The demonstration carton has already had its audition.

11 points
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NinaAllen0327
Replying to SamAdams0159

And define where each carton can be contacted; moving away from a seam may put the tool somewhere the station cannot present it.

16 points
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JoAdams0157
Replying to SamAdams0159

I'd settle the required handling conditions before calling a selection representative. Board surface matters, but so do the packed condition and the way the carton arrives. Otherwise a successful sample demonstration can still leave the supplier and buyer describing different work.

15 points
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HanaChan1057
Replying to JaneCarter1032

Include loss-of-hold handling in the application review. Detection and the appropriate response need assessing; a successful lift video cannot establish those protections.

10 points
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JaneCarter1032
Replying to AmaraArcher0426

No, Amara. They used their carton. Mine are packed cartons with several surface and seam arrangements. I have not sent a controlled selection yet.

5 points
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RosaAbbott0031
Replying to JaneCarter1032

Our picture review once gave samples confident labels before anyone judged the actual objects. I would identify the physical cartons and photograph them, but keep the cartons available. The pictures will not tell the toolmaker everything about the board.

6 points
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LucaBennett0700
Replying to NinaAllen0327

A cheap starting point is agreeing the contact regions on those physical samples. That is not a handling approval. It can stop you commissioning a larger trial around a region you cannot consistently present.

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Peter_Casey
Replying to NinaAllen0327

Nina, would you show the full release position as well? I worry about a tool that holds beautifully and then has nowhere to get out. There may also be neighbouring cartons by the time it withdraws.

11 points
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NinaAllen0327
Replying to Peter_Casey

Yes, Peter; include the occupied receiving station and withdrawal, not an isolated carton suspended in space.

1 points
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AmaraArcher0426
Replying to JaneCarter1032

Will the supplier identify the tooling and settings in that evidence too?

18 points
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SamAdams0159
Replying to AmaraArcher0426

They should, Amara. Otherwise the next quotation can quietly describe a different arrangement from the one everybody watched. Jane also needs the unsuccessful sample cases, not merely a highlights reel.

22 points
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JaneCarter1032
Replying to LucaBennett0700

I have asked for a proposed sample selection and trial conditions, including contact regions, receiving occupancy and hold-loss response. The supplier has not yet agreed that scope. I am not accepting the smooth-carton clip as our application evidence.

15 points
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JoAdams0157
Replying to JaneCarter1032

Ask them to state which variations the proposed selection does not cover. You may choose to restrict the job initially, but that needs an operating restriction people can recognise, not a buried assumption that all cartons behave like the chosen samples.

5 points
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LucaBennett0700
Replying to JoAdams0157

Who can actually separate those carton variants at the packing station? A restriction is only useful if the incoming work can be identified.

12 points

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