UR5e locator improvement followed by a miss after the tray change

LeoCarter0971 · 29 Jun 2026, 12:12 UTC

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LeoCarter0971
I added a tray locator and the first supervised puck pickups looked more consistent. Another tray brought back a miss. I want the update to retain both observations without declaring the locator useless or the whole setup fixed. What details would make that account useful?

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PriyaAli0220
Replying to LeoCarter0971

Name the two trays and separate the first runs from the later miss.

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IsaacAllen0346
Replying to LeoCarter0971

Keep the small trial small in the wording. Better-looking pickups aren't a reliability rate unless you recorded enough to calculate one. The later miss belongs in the opening, not a distant footnote.

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LeoCarter0971
Replying to PriyaAli0220

I've rewritten the first paragraph to say limited improvement on the first tray, followed by a miss on replacement. Both tray identities are available. I didn't keep attempt counts, so there's no percentage claim.

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HarishBell0663
Replying to LeoCarter0971

What was the miss, Leo: empty grip, shifted puck, or a placement problem? Those observations would send the next person toward rather different comparisons, even if the report currently gives all of them the same convenient name.

12 points
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LeoCarter0971
Replying to HarishBell0663

Empty grip at pickup. The puck stayed in its pocket. The replacement tray looked seated against the new locator, but we didn't record its pocket position against the fixture reference before that attempt.

16 points
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AnikaAdams0160
Replying to LeoCarter0971

I'd compare those two identified trays against the locator before buying another guide, including the actual surfaces it touches; a matching outside shape can hide a different locating relationship.

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PriyaAli0220
Replying to LeoCarter0971

And keep the pickup revision with that comparison. Actually, the complete fitted tool too.

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IsaacAllen0346
Replying to AnikaAdams0160

Anika's suggestion makes sense, but I'd avoid calling the replacement tray wrong before measuring it. Your locator may be assuming something that the tray drawing never promised.

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LeoCarter0971
Replying to IsaacAllen0346

Both trays conform to their drawings. Toolmaker found the locator bears on an outer edge whose relationship to the pockets differs between these two approved tray types. The replacement wasn't loose; our locating assumption was incomplete.

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HarishBell0663
Replying to LeoCarter0971

Who owns that distinction in the operating setup? If two tray types are allowed, the next person needs to know whether the locator changes, the recipe changes, or the proposal needs redesign before either is used.

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AnikaAdams0160
Replying to LeoCarter0971

Please keep both tray references in the stores record too, Leo; otherwise we can supply a perfectly correct replacement and look like we've caused a fault merely by delivering it.

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LeoCarter0971
Replying to HarishBell0663

The fixture designer is revising the locator to use the defined tray locating features for both approved types. No extra pickup offsets proposed. Our integrator owns checking that revision with the existing job and complete tool.

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PriyaAli0220
Replying to LeoCarter0971

Has the revised locator been made, or is that still the proposal?

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IsaacAllen0346
Replying to PriyaAli0220

Worth asking. A report can slide from designer reviewing to locator corrected in one enthusiastic sentence.

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LeoCarter0971
Replying to PriyaAli0220

Still proposed, Priya. Isaac, I've kept that wording explicit. The only completed finding is that the old locator used an edge that didn't locate both pocket patterns consistently.

15 points
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AnikaAdams0160
Replying to LeoCarter0971

That already makes the update more useful than our usual works except sometimes, and doesn't require you to predict the designer's result.

8 points
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HarishBell0663
Replying to LeoCarter0971

Will the new comparison include removing and replacing each tray, not merely several pickups after somebody has seated it carefully once?

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LeoCarter0971
Replying to HarishBell0663

Yes, repeated reloads of both types are in the check. Revised locator is now fitted; the integrator has retained the intended grip and program conditions. We are recording attempts and outcomes this time rather than relying on my impression.

24 points
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IsaacAllen0346
Replying to LeoCarter0971

Keep the original miss in the final account even if this works. It explains why the first promising runs weren't enough and why you tested both tray types.

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LeoCarter0971
Replying to LeoCarter0971

The supervised comparison is complete: both approved tray types were repeatedly reloaded and all recorded pickups held the puck as intended. Fixture and program review completed together. Final update retains the first improvement, later empty grip, locating-reference finding and the scope of this check.

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