steel blank reaches the fixture, FR10 tool still undrawn

ZaraBaker0482 · 3 Aug 2025, 22:28 UTC

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ZaraBaker0482
I'm looking at an FR10 unloading option for steel blanks, separate from our FR5 layouts. The proposed reach sketch again omits the gripper body and open door. I'd like the complete tool and machine geometry reviewed before anyone calls the mounting position suitable.

19 replies

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HazelAbbott0049
Replying to ZaraBaker0482

Get the loaded tool into the drawing first. The blank alone can clear almost anything.

18 points
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ZaraBaker0482
Replying to HazelAbbott0049

Toolmaker has sent the assembly. Machine model still shows the door shut and omits the inside handle, so we are asking the owner for those details before the route comparison.

11 points
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JuliaAllen0326
Replying to ZaraBaker0482

Which assembly revision did the toolmaker send, and does it match the quoted option? I would establish that before measurements from the layout become part of the purchasing decision.

15 points
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ZaraBaker0482
Replying to JuliaAllen0326

Revision B, confirmed against the quote. Actual open-door dimensions now included. The loaded adapter clashes with the handle on the first proposed approach; designer is considering a rotated approach and another base position.

19 points
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AmyBell0641
Replying to ZaraBaker0482

We found a handle clash after adding fittings too. Keep those service bits on both alternatives, otherwise the rotated tool may only fit because someone hid its hose connection.

16 points
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OscarCarter0967
Replying to ZaraBaker0482

I would compare changing the adapter as well, if the supplier is willing to design that option. A base move can solve one clearance while consuming useful workshop space. It is not automatically the cheaper change.

12 points
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ElliotBrown0944
Replying to ZaraBaker0482

Keep the complete movement in each comparison. Approach, grip and loaded withdrawal. A tool pose clear of the handle can still leave no usable route back out.

12 points
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FionaAli0238
Replying to ZaraBaker0482

I'd want the setter looking at those base positions early. Our teaching cell review once focused so hard on where the robot could go that nobody checked where the person changing the fixture would stand. Different bodies, same doorway.

1 points
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ReeceBell0645
Replying to ZaraBaker0482

Does the alternate base position leave access to the machine's service panel? I am asking about the panel's actual removal space, not only whether its front remains visible.

25 points
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CallumChen1143
Replying to FionaAli0238

We kept a trolley outline in one layout but forgot the space needed to turn it, so I would ask the setter to show the whole fixture-change route on both options rather than approve an empty rectangle beside the machine.

12 points
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DanielAli0217
Replying to ZaraBaker0482

Can they screen the obvious obstructions with full-size outlines before detailing every candidate?

18 points
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NoraAbbott0061
Replying to DanielAli0217

Use that for early rejection, with the provisional geometry identified. It does not replace the complete motion and application assessment required for a final choice.

19 points
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PatBailey
Replying to ZaraBaker0482

Who is keeping the comparison drawing current? With the door, adapter and base all under discussion, I would want one person combining changes before anybody signs off their own corner.

7 points
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ZaraBaker0482
Replying to PatBailey

Integrator owns the combined drawings. Reece, the farther base obstructs panel removal and is being revised. Fiona and Callum, setter has marked standing and trolley-turning space. Oscar's adapter alternative is also being costed.

5 points
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HazelAbbott0049
Replying to ZaraBaker0482

At least those problems are still on paper.

19 points
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OscarCarter0967
Replying to ZaraBaker0482

Please include the loaded-tool assessment in the adapter comparison too. A shorter or differently shaped adapter changes the assembly, not only the handle clearance. The tool designer should check the applicable limits for the intended motion.

2 points
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AmyBell0641
Replying to OscarCarter0967

And confirm access to replace the fittings on the proposed adapter. A geometry fix that needs half the cell dismantled for a hose change deserves a cost of its own.

10 points
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ZaraBaker0482
Replying to ReeceBell0645

Those checks are in the revised scope. No arm or base choice accepted yet. Thank you, Reece, for the panel-removal question; the original plan showed the panel face but none of the space to take it off.

5 points
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FionaAli0238
Replying to ZaraBaker0482

Has the setter seen the latest combined drawing, Zara? You've changed enough bits since their first comments that I'd let them have another look before the comparison closes.

8 points

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