Our housing gets weighed while the UR5e fingers apparently float

TheoAllen0323 · 7 Apr 2026, 04:56 UTC

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TheoAllen0323
Both UR5e tooling quotes reassure me about the cast housing's mass. One drawing has extended fingers on a customer-supplied adapter; the other includes its own adapter and different connections. Neither total describes everything being carried. I want the complete assemblies compared before we argue about which quote is cheaper, not another reassuring line about the housing.

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AnilBell0636
Replying to TheoAllen0323

Ask each supplier for its identified complete assembly and the loaded mass, centre of gravity and inertia information for the intended motion. The customer-supplied adapter still belongs in the assessment; paying somebody else for it does not make it disappear.

7 points
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NaomiBell0680
Replying to TheoAllen0323

Who assembles that customer adapter into the final tool, Theo? Included on a parts list can mean supplied loose, which leaves a rather useful bit of work between the boxes.

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JuliaAdams0152
Replying to NaomiBell0680

Separate supply can be perfectly workable. I'd want one designer responsible for the assembled result, though, rather than assume the supplier selling the most expensive box owns everything around it.

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ChrisBailey
Replying to JuliaAdams0152

One responsible assembly owner. Not necessarily one seller.

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TheoAllen0323
Replying to NaomiBell0680

Our integrator owns the assembled design and would fit the customer adapter. We already have its drawing and assessed intended interface from the fixture designer. I mean assessed for that interface, not a completed load assessment with either proposed gripper.

9 points
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OliverAllen0276
Replying to TheoAllen0323

Give that exact adapter revision to the first supplier and keep the held housing position, approach, release and withdrawal with both load cases.

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PriyaAbbott0046
Replying to TheoAllen0323

And have the inspection-nest owner confirm the final housing position for each proposal. A supplier could provide a complete load assessment for a tool that leaves the housing somewhere your next check cannot use it.

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AdrianBailey
Replying to TheoAllen0323

Are both quoted tools meant to use the same housing range, or has one priced only your lightest example? That would be another difference worth exposing before comparing the totals.

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TheoAllen0323
Replying to AdrianBailey

Adrian, both have the current housing range. Priya, both now show the agreed final nest position. First supplier has accepted our adapter drawing; second has finally identified its own assembly, including rear fittings.

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ElenaAllen0340
Replying to TheoAllen0323

Include replacement identities in the eventual handover. The person changing a contact or fitting needs to know which assembled configuration they are restoring, not only which supplier originally sold it.

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NaomiBell0680
Replying to ElenaAllen0340

Elena, yes. Our travelling kit labels mattered as much as the stores shelf labels; a correct part can leave stores in a container named for yesterday's job.

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JuliaAdams0152
Replying to TheoAllen0323

I'd still compare the included-adapter option seriously, even with a responsible integrator. Less coordination can be worth paying for, provided that option really supplies the complete answer.

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AnilBell0636
Replying to JuliaAdams0152

Julia, agreed, but the included adapter still needs assessment and access work. I would not award it a technical advantage merely because its invoice has fewer lines.

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TheoAllen0323
Replying to AnilBell0636

Both complete assemblies are now with the integrator. The included-adapter tool's rear connection conflicts with our nest surround during withdrawal. The customer-adapter candidate clears that view; its complete load review is not finished.

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OliverAllen0276
Replying to TheoAllen0323

Have the second supplier identify any proposed connection change as a revised assembly, so its original load information is not reused without review.

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ChrisBailey
Replying to OliverAllen0276

And price the revised one, not the obsolete clear-looking quote.

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PriyaAbbott0046
Replying to TheoAllen0323

Theo, does the clear view for the first candidate include the open fingers after release? The accepted housing position should remain the same while that is checked.

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TheoAllen0323
Replying to PriyaAbbott0046

Yes, Priya. Complete receiving release and return are included with that position. Integrator is finishing its load assessment. Second supplier has offered a revised connection arrangement, but neither its full geometry nor revised price has arrived.

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ElenaAllen0340
Replying to TheoAllen0323

Keep those outstanding items against their own candidates in the handover to purchasing. One supplier being further along should not make the other supplier's unpriced revision look like the original complete offer.

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TheoAllen0323
Replying to ElenaAllen0340

Buying comparison now does that. We haven't selected a tool. Julia and Anil, the single-supplier discussion helped: I can price coordination without pretending it substitutes for the actual assembly review.

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