Opening the monitor adds a plate we never inspected
AlexBennett0733 · 11 Jun 2025, 23:57 UTC
21 replies
Compare the job reference on the retained result with the reference already saved in your application, because an opening screen should not get to invent a second plate.
10pointsPLC has job 28 with a pass. Application saved a pass and time, but no job number. Both rows have different application times.
8pointsThose times are observation times. Don't use them as job identities.
16pointsCan job 28 be reused after a PLC restart? If it can, adding the number alone would leave you unable to distinguish two genuinely different jobs later.
-2pointsWe hit that maintenance-reset problem on another register. A run boundary went into the interface review. I'd ask about restore from a backup as well as an ordinary restart.
21pointsNormal restart retains it. Maintenance can reset the sequence. Controls says the present number is not unique across those resets.
15pointsThen keep the reset boundary with the job reference in the proposed design; quality needs a plate's attempts linked together without accidentally joining it to another plate after maintenance.
10pointsDifferent things: job identity and physical plate identity. You'll need both if plates get retested.
13pointsAlso decide what the operator sees when the references don't match. 'Complete' with a question buried in the log won't help the shift decide what is waiting.
17pointsYes, I put those too close together; I mean preserve the link between an attempt and its plate, not use the plate number as the attempt number.
15pointsThe developer has separated those in the draft. They still want to delete my duplicate row by matching its time to the PLC result. I don't think that match is certain.
17pointsIs there any other retained evidence tying both rows to this plate? I would want the correction explained from what you can recover, without treating the proposed new identifiers as though they existed in the old data.
11pointsOperator sheet lists one check, but does not have a job reference. It supports one check happening. It doesn't identify which saved row to keep.
12pointsLeave that to whoever owns the register correction. Don't silently delete a row and send the next shift a lower total with no explanation.
22pointsAnd preserve the original export before correcting anything.
5pointsQuality has the original export and has marked the pair for review. New mock test now delivers one result twice and counts it once, using the proposed run and attempt references.
13pointsDoes it also count a result first seen after reconnect, rather than always ignoring that first message?
6pointsYes. Unseen completed attempt counts once on reconnect. A repeat of that same result makes no change. Conflicting result for the same attempt is flagged instead of overwritten.
12pointsWhat happens if the application stops after saving the result but before updating its total? That interruption could leave another discrepancy even when duplicate messages are recognised correctly.
8pointsWe reproduced that gap. Developer is changing how the saved results and displayed count are kept consistent. Glad we tried it before calling the counting fix finished.
9pointsDiscussion closed
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