I cannot accept our UR5e rotated cartons from the outline drawing alone

JaneAbbott0075 · 25 Aug 2026, 11:03 UTC

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JaneAbbott0075
I need packaging support and tool access to agree before we adopt this alternating dispatch pattern. The sealed cartons fit the pallet outline, but some rotated positions bridge gaps against their preferred support direction. What should the joint review settle first, without pretending every unresolved detail is already a design defect?

17 replies

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NinaChan1110
Replying to JaneAbbott0075

Start with required bearing for the actual filled carton. Packaging should put it on the real lower support, not leave the tool designer interpreting an arrow beside a rectangle.

14 points
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CalebAbbott0058
Replying to JaneAbbott0075

Establish the dispatch operation as well. I have wrongly assumed a remainder-handling task before; ask what partial loads actually leave this station rather than designing an exception nobody needs

4 points
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ElliotCarter1031
Replying to JaneAbbott0075

Include the open fingers in the occupied sequence. A route can carry the carton into position and still leave the hand unable to withdraw between its neighbours.

17 points
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JaneAbbott0075
Replying to CalebAbbott0058

Dispatch does move incomplete pallets at order end. Packaging has the current contents specification and deck drawing; tooling has the open-hand envelope. Neither has returned a finding yet, so I am keeping the current pattern undecided.

15 points
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OmarBarnes0578
Replying to JaneAbbott0075

Use one identified layout for those findings, including placement order. A packaging answer from the complete top view and a tool animation of another sequence do not form a combined result.

19 points
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SaraBrown0896
Replying to JaneAbbott0075

Who is allowed to release an incomplete pallet for movement?

11 points
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ChloeBell0657
Replying to SaraBrown0896

That responsibility matters, but it cannot replace the support assessment. Define the permitted partial configurations first; the release role needs criteria it can actually apply

4 points
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JaneAbbott0075
Replying to ChloeBell0657

Packaging returned an objection to the rotated row on the current pallet. Designer offers aligned rows at lower count. Dispatch lead owns release, but that candidate's partial arrangements and extra pallet movements still need review.

14 points
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VeraBowen
Replying to JaneAbbott0075

Has the lower-count candidate's support been checked, or is lower count being treated as automatically better?

21 points
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JamieAdams0121
Replying to VeraBowen

Vera's question is important. More empty space can help the hand while removing support a carton relied on, so the new count needs its own packaging finding.

12 points
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LucyBrooks0828
Replying to JaneAbbott0075

And send the changed row positions to tooling. Approval attached to the old path won't describe the new last placement or finger exit.

8 points
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JaneAbbott0075
Replying to LucyBrooks0828

The aligned candidate now has packaging approval for its defined filled-carton full and partial arrangements. Tool model review found the last release obstructed by a neighbour. We haven't selected a physical correction.

15 points
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ElliotCarter1031
Replying to JaneAbbott0075

Can the placement order change while leaving the approved final arrangement intact? Worth comparing before replacing the hand, though every intermediate occupied state still needs checking.

20 points
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NinaChan1110
Replying to ElliotCarter1031

Yes, compare it. Do not ask packaging to approve a finger gap by silently shifting a carton out of its reviewed bearing position.

1 points
JA
JaneAbbott0075
Replying to NinaChan1110

Integrator is comparing the revised order without moving the final carton positions. Dispatch's work estimate already includes the additional pallet movements. Geometry result still pending; original rotated row remains rejected.

15 points
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CalebAbbott0058
Replying to JaneAbbott0075

What will the shift see while the candidate is unfinished? I would keep it out of the released loading sheets, even if it is the only option still being developed

5 points
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JaneAbbott0075
Replying to CalebAbbott0058

Released sheets are unchanged and this automation pattern remains on hold. Review copies identify the aligned candidate as unfinished. Thanks, Caleb; our planner had been about to circulate the candidate picture without its outstanding release check.

4 points

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