The cups held one cover, but we buy them in a stack

GraceBarnes0581 · 26 Apr 2025, 00:56 UTC

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GraceBarnes0581
I watched our UR5e tooling supplier lift a single stainless cover off a bench and it looked tidy, but ours arrive nested together and the corners are floppy; what do we need them to show before I tell maintenance this is a workable stack-to-nest job?

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ElliotBrown0944
Replying to GraceBarnes0581

Request a supervised trial with representative stacks. Cover single-sheet separation, panel support through transfer and release into the nest. The bench test addresses sealing on one panel only.

15 points
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GraceBarnes0581
Replying to ElliotBrown0944

They used our panel for the seal test but not our stack; I've asked them to include the actual supply condition, including the occasional sheets that stick together.

17 points
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ElliotBrown0944
Replying to GraceBarnes0581

Ask how a double pickup will be detected and handled within the approved system design. Vacuum achieved does not by itself establish that exactly one sheet is present.

5 points
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GraceBarnes0581
Replying to ElliotBrown0944

Their first answer was that the vacuum reading would tell them. I asked for evidence of that with two stuck covers and they are reviewing it with the tooling engineer.

9 points
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ElliotBrown0944
Replying to GraceBarnes0581

That review needs representative double-sheet cases and defined detection criteria. Do not accept the assumption simply because the single-sheet test passed.

8 points
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JuliaAllen0326
Replying to GraceBarnes0581

What support is provided between the cups, and how will deformation be judged at the nest? The cover could remain attached while flexing enough to interfere with placement or damage the finish.

-4 points
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ElliotBrown0944
Replying to JuliaAllen0326

Include the actual panel variation in that assessment. A stiff sample from the top of the pile may not represent the least supported cover you expect to handle.

22 points
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NoahArcher0368
Replying to GraceBarnes0581

Our training rig held its sheet beautifully and then struggled to let it go squarely. Include release, not just the trip across. And get the recovery described for a stuck or doubled sheet so that job doesn't land on whoever happens to be nearby.

16 points
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ElliotBrown0944
Replying to ElliotBrown0944

Has the supplier sent a revised trial scope covering those points? Separation, support and release should have distinct observations and acceptance criteria.

5 points
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GraceBarnes0581
Replying to ElliotBrown0944

Yes, draft arrived. It includes stuck pairs and a supported transfer review, but release just says 'places successfully', so I've asked how they'll judge seating and any marks afterwards.

6 points
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ZaraAdams0134
Replying to GraceBarnes0581

Does the draft include who reloads the stack and how long that takes, even if the handling checks all pass?

7 points
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GraceBarnes0581
Replying to ZaraAdams0134

It didn't. Added a refill walkthrough with our operator, thanks. We're still agreeing the trial; no automatic stack handling has been signed off from that original seal test.

12 points
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ElliotBrown0944
Replying to GraceBarnes0581

Keep the original sealing result in its proper scope. It remains useful evidence for one aspect of the tool, even though the application needs these further checks.

6 points

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