Several bracket contacts in CAD, inconsistent seating on my bench

DineshBarnes0560 · 13 Aug 2026, 23:39 UTC

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DineshBarnes0560
Our proposed FR10 inspection nest touches several surfaces of a drilled aluminium angle bracket. CAD looks tidy. My bench samples do not all sit the same way. How do I check whether the locating scheme conflicts before someone approves a stronger clamp?

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HarishBell0663
Replying to DineshBarnes0560

Which contacts establish the intended datums, and which are only guides or clamp reactions? Ask the designer to distinguish them on the drawing before deciding that more force will help every surface make contact.

9 points
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BrunoBrooks0800
Replying to DineshBarnes0560

Keep the samples identified and compare repeat placements of one bracket as well as different brackets. If one piece seats differently each time, that is not the same observation as several pieces consistently sitting differently. You want to separate those before rebuilding the nest.

9 points
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NaomiBaker0506
Replying to DineshBarnes0560

A stronger clamp can make contact look complete by deforming the part; that would not establish that the locating scheme is sound.

13 points
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DineshBarnes0560
Replying to HarishBell0663

The drawing does not separate locating contacts from guides. I have asked the designer to mark their roles.

3 points
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GraceBarnes0581
Replying to DineshBarnes0560

Will the person loading the nest be in that discussion, since they may be supplying a particular push or tilt that nobody has written into the tidy CAD picture?

25 points
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HarishBell0663
Replying to GraceBarnes0581

That is useful context, Grace, but the operator cannot settle datum intent by describing what makes a bracket feel seated. The designer still needs to define the intended location and how the clamp should maintain it.

22 points
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GraceBarnes0581
Replying to HarishBell0663

Agreed, I meant reveal hidden loading help, not have the operator approve the locating design

6 points
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DineshBarnes0560
Replying to GraceBarnes0581

Our bench loading was by hand, with different people finding their own way to settle the brackets. That is part of the comparison to control.

24 points
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BrunoBrooks0800
Replying to DineshBarnes0560

Record the as-found seating and part condition first, within the approved manual inspection arrangement. Burrs, contamination or relevant part variation may explain a contact difference without the whole locating concept being wrong. Equally, removing one bit of debris would not prove every remaining contact is necessary.

15 points
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NaomiBaker0506
Replying to BrunoBrooks0800

Include the unclamped condition in the record, so the clamp's effect does not disappear behind one final seated photograph.

8 points
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HarishBell0663
Replying to DineshBarnes0560

Can the designer explain which freedoms each locating contact constrains? That should expose redundant or conflicting intentions more clearly than asking whether the nest has too many pads in the abstract.

12 points
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DineshBarnes0560
Replying to HarishBell0663

They now identify two features as loading guides rather than final locating contacts. The old illustration made all contacts look equally required.

11 points
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BrunoBrooks0800
Replying to DineshBarnes0560

That changes how to read the sketch, but it does not establish the guides actually clear the part after location. Ask for the relevant tolerance and clearance comparison with your real bracket variation.

6 points
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GraceBarnes0581
Replying to DineshBarnes0560

Does the bench record show the brackets touching those guides after seating, or was that inferred from the drawing?

14 points
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DineshBarnes0560
Replying to GraceBarnes0581

One identified bracket contacts a guide while seated. I have recorded that observation; we have not yet compared its dimensions with the intended clearance.

18 points
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NaomiBaker0506
Replying to DineshBarnes0560

Then do not remove the guide on that observation alone; the designer needs to establish whether the part, guide or intended clearance differs from the requirement.

17 points
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HarishBell0663
Replying to DineshBarnes0560

Who will carry the eventual contact definitions into the loading instruction? A corrected design can still be used badly if the handover tells the operator to force contact at a feature meant only to guide entry.

8 points
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DineshBarnes0560
Replying to HarishBell0663

Tooling and the trainer will update it together after the clearance review. Stronger clamping is not approved, and the bench fit remains an open design question.

11 points
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BrunoBrooks0800
Replying to DineshBarnes0560

Please retain the identified awkward bracket for the revised comparison. It is the useful part here, even if a nicer specimen makes the next demonstration easier to photograph.

18 points

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