FR10 faceplate examples turn every travelling bright streak into a scratch

AnikaAli0247 · 23 Jun 2026, 10:22 UTC

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AnikaAli0247
Our planning images show bright streaks shifting when the faceplate presentation changes, yet the folder labels them as scratches. I want physical references and image conditions sorted before anyone tunes this uncommissioned FR10 inspection around confident captions. Where should we begin with the examples already collected?

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NoraArcher0409
Replying to AnikaAli0247

Are the pictured faceplates still available and individually identifiable? That decides whether their physical regions can be examined against the appearance requirement. A folder of similar-looking images is not enough to reconstruct which surface was judged.

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AnikaAli0247
Replying to NoraArcher0409

Three faceplates are retained and linked to their images. The scratch labels came from our planning meeting, not quality. Nobody recorded the holder seating for each picture, although the changed angle is visible.

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IsabelBennett0735
Replying to AnikaAli0247

Take those identified pieces to the acceptance owner before tuning. Ask them to locate and classify the physical regions under the applicable viewing conditions. Retain the present images as observations with uncertain labels; do not relabel every moving streak acceptable simply because reflection seems likely.

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MiaArcher0383
Replying to AnikaAli0247

And compare reseating with the holder condition recorded, once those surface decisions exist; moving the plate and changing the lighting together won't tell you which change made a real mark easier to see.

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CalebBrown0928
Replying to AnikaAli0247

Are those examples already in operator training, Anika? If they are, somebody needs to stop the unverified captions being treated as an acceptance rule while the physical review proceeds.

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AnikaAli0247
Replying to CalebBrown0928

Only a draft training deck so far. I've marked those captions unverified and told the trainer not to use them as defect standards. Quality has the identified plates for review.

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NoraArcher0409
Replying to AnikaAli0247

What do you know about the holder's seating repeatability? A visibly changed presentation can come from several sources. I would want the fixture owner involved before assuming illumination alone needs changing.

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AnikaAli0247
Replying to NoraArcher0409

It can sit at two slightly different angles in the current holder. We haven't measured the relationship yet. Fixture owner is joining the review; no light or camera replacement proposed.

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IsabelBennett0735
Replying to AnikaAli0247

That is enough reason to examine presentation before buying more imaging equipment. It is not proof that fixing the holder will make the whole inspection capable. The physical reference decisions and the imaging comparison still answer different questions.

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CalebBrown0928
Replying to MiaArcher0383

Mia, will the comparison include an identified real defect as well as an accepted surface? A cleaner-looking image could also make a faint required defect disappear.

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MiaArcher0383
Replying to CalebBrown0928

Yes, that's what I meant by a real mark, Caleb; the acceptance owner needs to define those examples, and I can't assume Anika's three retained pieces already cover both decisions.

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AnikaAli0247
Replying to IsabelBennett0735

Quality accepted two plates and identified a scratch on the third away from its moving bright streak. The fixture and vision owners are comparing presentation conditions with those physical regions identified. No imaging change selected yet.

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NoraArcher0409
Replying to AnikaAli0247

Can the confirmed scratch be seen in every current view, or does one presentation hide it? That is more useful to the next comparison than simply knowing that one plate is a reject.

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AnikaAli0247
Replying to NoraArcher0409

One current view hides it in the bright area. I've kept that image as a difficult observation tied to the rejected plate, not discarded it to make the reference folder look consistent.

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CalebBrown0928
Replying to AnikaAli0247

Keep the eventual training selection tied to the reviewed imaging condition. The physical judgement is settled for these pieces; reliable presentation and visibility still need verification before the examples can teach the operating inspection.

14 points

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