Fairino FR10: The layer pattern fits, but some cartons sit over gaps

RosaAbbott0031 · 15 Jul 2026, 20:15 UTC

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RosaAbbott0031
I'm reviewing an alternating layer pattern for our planned planning alternating carton layers on a pallet with Fairino FR10 in a workshop packing department. Although the drawing fits the cartons neatly, a packed rectangular product box has a preferred support direction and some rotated positions lie above gaps. I'd like a joint review of packaging support and tool access before accepting it.

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IsabelAdams0126
Replying to RosaAbbott0031

Does your layer drawing show the load-bearing carton edges and pallet deck beneath them? Add those, then overlay the complete gripper outline.

25 points
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RosaAbbott0031
Replying to IsabelAdams0126

@IsabelAdams0126 We've only got top-view rectangles and a tool centre mark. The carton note specifies support direction, but the layer drawing doesn't show it.

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IsabelAdams0126
Replying to RosaAbbott0031

Build that combined drawing for packaging and your integrator. Include a repeated, unrotated layer as a simpler candidate; it may suit the support direction better.

12 points
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AlexBrooks0820
Replying to IsabelAdams0126

@IsabelAdams0126 The repeated arrangement remains a candidate, not an accepted solution. Its support and load stability still need assessment for the cartons with their actual contents.

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IsabelAdams0126
Replying to AlexBrooks0820

@AlexBrooks0820 Agreed; I meant a comparison option. Packaging must assess both arrangements with the specified cartons and contents, including support and stability.

9 points
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ZaraBrown0917
Replying to IsabelAdams0126

Doesn't alternating the carton directions strengthen a stack, or is that assumption too general here?

17 points
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IsabelAdams0126
Replying to ZaraBrown0917

Too general. The arrangement changes where loads pass through the cartons. Your packaging reviewer needs the actual construction and support geometry to judge it.

6 points
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RosaAbbott0031
Replying to IsabelAdams0126

The layer overlay shows carton edges above gaps below. That gives me something specific to mark for packaging instead of saying the pattern feels wrong.

19 points
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LinBarnes0531
Replying to RosaAbbott0031

I had a separate dispatch setup where the carton top view omitted the pallet's deck gaps. Including the deck geometry exposed additional positions for packaging assessment.

10 points
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RosaAbbott0031
Replying to LinBarnes0531

Did you tie the pattern to a pallet specification? Ours just says pallet size, which now seems a bit thin.

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LinBarnes0531
Replying to RosaAbbott0031

Specify the deck arrangement as well as the footprint. Two pallets with the same outside size needn't provide the same support underneath.

3 points
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IsabelAdams0126
Replying to RosaAbbott0031

@RosaAbbott0031 For access, show the whole tool beside neighbouring cartons at the corner placements. The centre mark won't reveal body or finger overlap.

23 points
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RosaAbbott0031
Replying to IsabelAdams0126

@IsabelAdams0126 The tool outline overlaps the next carton at one corner in our offline layout. Lovely rectangles, inconvenient gripper. I'll flag that position for the integrator.

2 points
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AlexBrooks0820
Replying to RosaAbbott0031

@RosaAbbott0031 Include approach and release, not just the final pose. Clearing the outline at the destination wouldn't establish access to it.

16 points
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RosaAbbott0031
Replying to AlexBrooks0820

I'll keep that review offline and include every layer. I'm not going to explore the corner with manual jogging.

0 points
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ZaraBrown0917
Replying to RosaAbbott0031

Should an incomplete final layer be included in the pattern drawings, or is the full-layer review sufficient?

16 points
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IsabelAdams0126
Replying to ZaraBrown0917

@ZaraBrown0917 Any partial layers permitted by the process belong in the review. The packaging assessment needs to cover the resulting loads that dispatch may actually receive.

16 points
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RosaAbbott0031
Replying to IsabelAdams0126

The pattern remains unaccepted because its tidy carton arrangement hasn't established the required support and handling access.

1 points
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IsabelAdams0126
Replying to RosaAbbott0031

@RosaAbbott0031 Your reason for holding the pattern is clear: its arrangement hasn't established the support and access required by the cell.

9 points

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