The scratch labels look less certain than the images suggest (Fairino FR5)

AnikaAli0247 · 21 Jul 2026, 19:13 UTC

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AnikaAli0247
Our planned checking cosmetic metal surfaces with a fixed camera in a small finished-parts production cell has Fairino FR5 presenting a brushed stainless trim plate to a fixed camera. The example images contain bright streaks that shift with small presentation differences, yet those streaks are being labelled as scratches. Before commissioning, I'd like to establish reliable references and image conditions for threshold tuning.

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HenryBrown0873
Replying to AnikaAli0247

@AnikaAli0247 Were those scratches confirmed on the physical samples using your agreed appearance method? Start by linking each image to a sample and its inspection result.

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AnikaAli0247
Replying to HenryBrown0873

I've found that some labels were assigned from the images themselves. The samples are still available, but those labels have no corresponding physical inspection results, making the reference circular.

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HenryBrown0873
Replying to AnikaAli0247

@AnikaAli0247 Keep the image-only labels uncertain pending physical inspection. A controlled comparison of lighting and presentation can then investigate whether the moving streaks indicate reflection effects.

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NaomiBaker0506
Replying to HenryBrown0873

A scratch's visibility can change with presentation too. Don't let 'moving streak' quietly become the rule for relabelling something acceptable.

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HenryBrown0873
Replying to NaomiBaker0506

You're right to qualify that. The streak behaviour motivates an imaging investigation; it doesn't replace physical classification under the agreed inspection procedure.

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YasminChan1050
Replying to HenryBrown0873

So uncertain isn't the same as good? Where do those images go?

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HenryBrown0873
Replying to YasminChan1050

@YasminChan1050 Retain their sample identities and undecided status. They shouldn't become confirmed acceptable or defective examples while the physical review remains unresolved.

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AnikaAli0247
Replying to HenryBrown0873

I've checked the image folders and found that exposure and presentation both changed between them. Their improved appearance can't be attributed to either change individually.

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NaomiBrown0941
Replying to AnikaAli0247

@AnikaAli0247 I had a separate inspection setup where the 'better lighting' folder used easier samples too. Its name implied a lighting conclusion that the comparison didn't support.

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AnikaAli0247
Replying to NaomiBrown0941

@NaomiBrown0941 Which details did you retain with each image? I can record sample identity and settings, but I'd like a practical record people will actually maintain.

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NaomiBrown0941
Replying to AnikaAli0247

For my separate setup, sample identity, exposure, lighting arrangement and presentation condition were the useful essentials. They let us understand comparisons without relying on recollection.

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AnikaAli0247
Replying to NaomiBrown0941

@NaomiBrown0941 I can explain the reference uncertainty better, although the example images still don't support a performance judgement. Physical classification and image-condition comparisons remain outstanding.

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HenryBrown0873
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@AnikaAli0247 The remaining physical-label and comparison work explains the open judgement. Clearer uncertainty doesn't yet establish inspection performance.

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