Which old measurements can actually guide our fixture review? (Universal Robots UR5e)

ZaraAbbott0047 · 2 Sept 2026, 08:47 UTC

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ZaraAbbott0047
We're planning planning repeatable welding of bracket assemblies with Universal Robots UR5e on a gusseted steel support bracket weldment in a precision fabrication quality department. Our old inspection notes say it looks aligned while restrained, then falls outside the drawing requirement after release. I want to untangle fit-up, fixture location and final inspection before our new cell inherits an unexplained correction routine. This is a records review, not live welding adjustment

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OmarAllen0317
Replying to ZaraAbbott0047

@ZaraAbbott0047 Does the inspection procedure define the released condition and reference supports? Check that alongside whether each old measurement says how the assembly was held.

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ZaraAbbott0047
Replying to OmarAllen0317

The sheets mix clamped checks and released measurements. Some don't say which. The drawing has the dimension, but our procedure leaves the support condition vague

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OmarAllen0317
Replying to ZaraAbbott0047

@ZaraAbbott0047 Have quality and the drawing owner define the acceptance condition. Group the old results by known measurement state; that should make them comparable.

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CallumChen1143
Replying to OmarAllen0317

Grouping by restraint state won't fully establish comparability if reference supports, fixture revisions or process revisions differ or remain unknown within each group.

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OmarAllen0317
Replying to CallumChen1143

@CallumChen1143 That's a fair correction. State grouping addresses only one source of difference; the review also needs support conditions and fixture and process references, with missing information explicitly identified.

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ZaraAbbott0047
Replying to OmarAllen0317

Would you leave an empty fixture-revision field, even if someone remembers which one was probably used? That's already becoming an argument here

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OmarAllen0317
Replying to ZaraAbbott0047

Mark it unknown. You can note the recollection separately as something to investigate, but don't turn a probable revision into a recorded fact.

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AaronBrooks0784
Replying to OmarAllen0317

On my bracket job, filling blanks from memory produced a very persuasive trend. Finding the original fixture sheets made the trend disappear. Not my favourite chart.

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HanaCarter0970
Replying to AaronBrooks0784

If the fixture holds it straight, why isn't that already the result we want?

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OmarAllen0317
Replying to HanaCarter0970

Because the required inspection condition may be after release. Holding a shape under restraint doesn't establish the shape the assembly takes without that restraint.

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ZaraAbbott0047
Replying to OmarAllen0317

I've had the drawing owner confirm the released inspection condition and its reference supports. Quality is adding those requirements to the sheet so the measurement state is explicit

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