Cannot select our FR10 pattern around a support sheet nobody stocks

CallumCarter0969 · 15 Feb 2026, 19:19 UTC

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CallumCarter0969
Our combined pallet section shows why the turned cartons need extra support. The proposed answer is a sheet between layers, but purchasing cannot identify a regular source for the specified sheet. I want a sheet-free alternative kept in the comparison before the tooling is selected.

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TheoBrown0932
Replying to CallumCarter0969

Compare each complete arrangement using the same packed carton and order mix. The sheet-free candidate still needs its own support and tool-withdrawal check; removing the sheet alone does not establish a workable pattern.

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CallumCarter0969
Replying to TheoBrown0932

We have a lower-count straight arrangement. Packaging has its section and tooling has the same version. The sheet supplier enquiry is still open.

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ElliotBaker0509
Replying to CallumCarter0969

Did anyone specify that sheet from an actual product, or is it an ideal material someone drew? We had to settle that before our own comparison stopped drifting.

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HanaChan1057
Replying to CallumCarter0969

Also check partial builds. The complete straight layer may support cartons differently from a short order stopped midway.

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LinBaker0444
Replying to CallumCarter0969

I'd give the supplier enquiry a sensible decision point, not let it hold the whole exercise indefinitely. But price the extra pallet movements on the straight option too. It has its own inconvenience.

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CallumCarter0969
Replying to LinBaker0444

Elliot, packaging named a material specification but no supply product. Lin, dispatch is costing actual orders. Hana, partial builds are included. We agreed to decide after those returned checks, rather than keep extending the sheet search.

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ElliotBaker0509
Replying to CallumCarter0969

That is clearer. Could a different available sheet be assessed, or is the required support very particular?

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TheoBrown0932
Replying to ElliotBaker0509

Any substitute should go back to packaging and tooling as a changed candidate. A similar-looking sheet could change both support and the way it is handled.

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CallumCarter0969
Replying to ElliotBaker0509

Packaging will assess an available alternative. Tooling says its handling method also changes with that sheet. We have not put its lower material price straight into the original proposal.

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LinBaker0444
Replying to CallumCarter0969

Good. A cheap sheet plus a new feeding job is not necessarily a cheaper sheet option.

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HanaChan1057
Replying to CallumCarter0969

Who replenishes the proposed sheet supply during ordinary operation?

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CallumCarter0969
Replying to HanaChan1057

The packer, with a separate stack at the station. Dispatch included replenishment and the extra movement in the labour comparison. It is not covered by the original robot cycle time.

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ElliotBaker0509
Replying to CallumCarter0969

Any result on straight-row support yet?

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CallumCarter0969
Replying to ElliotBaker0509

Packaging accepted its support for our packed carton and assessed builds. Tooling confirmed withdrawal with the proposed fingers. The available-sheet alternative still has an unfinished feed arrangement.

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LinBaker0444
Replying to CallumCarter0969

How much worse is the straight option on actual dispatch work, rather than cartons per layer?

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CallumCarter0969
Replying to LinBaker0444

More pallets on our larger orders, but less intervention on short orders. Dispatch says the total work is manageable and has included the freight difference.

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TheoBrown0932
Replying to CallumCarter0969

Then you have a complete candidate to decide on. Do not let an unfinished higher-count option keep its nominal cycle time while leaving its operator work blank.

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CallumCarter0969
Replying to TheoBrown0932

We selected the straight arrangement. Extra pallet cost remains visible; sheet option is shelved, not quietly approved for later. Thanks, Elliot, for asking whether the first sheet was something anybody could actually buy.

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