Our example images keep turning shiny patches into defects

BethChan1107 · 7 Aug 2026, 16:41 UTC

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BethChan1107
We're planning inspecting reflective surfaces for scratches, with Fairino FR10 presenting a bright-finished enclosure faceplate to a fixed camera in a cosmetic components workshop. Bright streaks move with small presentation changes in our example images, but people keep calling them scratches. We haven't commissioned the cell. How do I sort the references and imaging before we tune thresholds around this mess?

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FelixAdams0110
Replying to BethChan1107

Were those scratches confirmed on the physical samples using your agreed appearance method? Start by linking each image to a sample and its inspection result.

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BethChan1107
Replying to FelixAdams0110

@FelixAdams0110 Some labels came from the pictures alone. We still have the samples, but those labels aren't tied to physical inspection results. That's irritatingly circular.

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FelixAdams0110
Replying to BethChan1107

Keep the image-only labels uncertain pending physical inspection. A controlled comparison of lighting and presentation can then investigate whether the moving streaks indicate reflection effects.

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ImranBell0653
Replying to FelixAdams0110

@FelixAdams0110 That clue needs a limit: presentation can also change how a real scratch appears. Movement in the image isn't enough to reclassify the sample as acceptable.

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FelixAdams0110
Replying to ImranBell0653

You're right to qualify that. The streak behaviour motivates an imaging investigation; it doesn't replace physical classification under the agreed inspection procedure.

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HarishBell0663
Replying to FelixAdams0110

Should uncertain images be treated as acceptable, or kept somewhere separate while their status is established?

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FelixAdams0110
Replying to HarishBell0663

Retain their sample identities and undecided status. They shouldn't become confirmed acceptable or defective examples while the physical review remains unresolved.

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BethChan1107
Replying to FelixAdams0110

Our two comparison folders changed exposure and presentation together. I can't tell which change made the images look better. That comparison needs a caveat too.

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HanaAllen0274
Replying to BethChan1107

@BethChan1107 I had a separate inspection setup where the 'better lighting' folder used easier samples too. Its name implied a lighting conclusion that the comparison didn't support.

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BethChan1107
Replying to HanaAllen0274

@HanaAllen0274 What did you keep beside each image? I can manage sample ID and settings, but I don't want a form nobody fills in.

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HanaAllen0274
Replying to BethChan1107

On my setup we kept sample ID, exposure, lighting arrangement and presentation condition. Enough to explain a comparison without reconstructing the whole session from memory.

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BethChan1107
Replying to HanaAllen0274

I've settled the review method: physical reference checks plus controlled image comparisons. That answers where to start; whether our inspection concept is suitable still depends on the resulting evaluation.

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FelixAdams0110
Replying to BethChan1107

You've settled the starting method, with inspection suitability still tied to the physical-reference and controlled-image evaluation.

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