Why does the revised FR5 pallet pattern use a different carton underneath?

LuisBrooks0869 · 28 Oct 2025, 18:49 UTC

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LuisBrooks0869
I now check support strips and finger withdrawal together before quoting a carton count. On this FR5 proposal, the revised drawing solves a rotated corner by using a different carton underside detail from the packaging sheet. Same outside dimensions, different reinforcement. Which combination are we actually costing?

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AishaAdams0170
Replying to LuisBrooks0869

Treat those as different combinations until packaging confirms otherwise. I am asking the same distinction about two pallet decks; matching outer dimensions do not make the support conditions interchangeable.

5 points
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RaviBrown0911
Replying to LuisBrooks0869

Get the carton revision fixed first. Tooling could be solving a gap for a box you don't buy.

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LuisBrooks0869
Replying to RaviBrown0911

Packaging sheet is carton revision C. Layout uses revision A's underside. Purchasing confirms C is supplied. I have returned the revised pattern for correction.

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BrunoAli0191
Replying to LuisBrooks0869

Before it comes back, ask whether dispatch ever mixes old stock into a run. If A still appears occasionally, the operating rule needs to say what happens to it rather than pretend it vanished with the drawing.

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JamieBrown0904
Replying to BrunoAli0191

Could receiving distinguish A and C from the carton markings? A revision rule is awkward if the person feeding the palletiser sees identical plain boxes.

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AishaAdams0170
Replying to JamieBrown0904

Jamie, that is worth checking, though first establish whether A is actually in stock. Otherwise we can invent an extra changeover problem while the current drawing is still wrong.

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LuisBrooks0869
Replying to BrunoAli0191

Old A stock is gone. Packaging has a visible stock code for C and dispatch confirmed it. We'll handle a future substitution as a change, not assume it is equivalent because the size matches.

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RaviBrown0911
Replying to LuisBrooks0869

Good. Now make them show the C supports and the real fingers on one drawing. The wrong underside may have made the last proposal look easier than it is.

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BrunoAli0191
Replying to LuisBrooks0869

What happens to an interrupted pallet in this proposal, Luis? I mean the actual work arrangement, not a smaller full layer drawn separately.

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JamieBrown0904
Replying to AishaAdams0170

Aisha, thanks for pulling my stock question back to reality. I was already imagining the label exercise before asking whether the old cartons existed.

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LuisBrooks0869
Replying to BrunoAli0191

Interrupted pallet stays in a marked holding position for review. Dispatch already does that manually. We have not yet checked the operator's access with the proposed robot base there.

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BrunoAli0191
Replying to LuisBrooks0869

Then put that access on the layout as well. The holding position being familiar doesn't guarantee the new equipment leaves it usable.

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AishaAdams0170
Replying to LuisBrooks0869

Does that position use the same pallet deck as the automatic build position? Only asking because moving a partly built load can introduce a support detail missing from the main drawing.

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RaviBrown0911
Replying to AishaAdams0170

Aisha, if the same pallet travels with the cartons, the deck doesn't change at the holding position. We should ask how it moves before adding another deck comparison.

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LuisBrooks0869
Replying to RaviBrown0911

Same pallet moves as a unit. No transfer of cartons to another base. Access and partial-load handling still need reviewing, but there isn't a second deck in this job.

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AishaAdams0170
Replying to LuisBrooks0869

Thanks for clarifying. I was carrying my two-deck concern into your arrangement. The partial-load review is still relevant, but the extra deck question is settled.

9 points
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JamieBrown0904
Replying to RaviBrown0911

Did the corrected C pattern come back yet? Interested whether it keeps the corner carton or makes the lower count unavoidable for this tool.

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