A subcontract lathe department: Two suppliers, two meanings of ready

ElliotAbbott0074 · 27 Aug 2026, 23:22 UTC

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ElliotAbbott0074
I'm writing up defining a lathe tending handshake, with Universal Robots UR5e handling a machined bush in a subcontract lathe department. The machine supplier says 'ready' means request received. Our integrator means loading area available. We're still planning, but this is getting circular. How do I get one definition both teams accept?

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JoAli0244
Replying to ElliotAbbott0074

@ElliotAbbott0074 Can you put the two definitions beside each other, with the sender and receiving system named? Start with that single disputed transition

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ElliotAbbott0074
Replying to JoAli0244

Both list a machine-to-robot signal. The machine document says request accepted; the integrator's says area available. They agree on the arrow and disagree on what happened.

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JoAli0244
Replying to ElliotAbbott0074

Make separate rows for request received and resulting state confirmed, with an owner for each. That should clear up the normal handover on paper

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ThomasChan1060
Replying to JoAli0244

That table could still lose track of the part. Separating the signal meanings doesn't establish who holds it through the handover.

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JoAli0244
Replying to ThomasChan1060

@ThomasChan1060 Fair correction. Those rows alone don't settle the handover. Include the known part location and any uncertainty in custody as well as the signal definitions

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ElliotAbbott0074
Replying to JoAli0244

@JoAli0244 The sequence drawing has a transfer box but no custody note inside it. Neither document says who reconciles that state after an interruption.

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TobyAbbott0057
Replying to ElliotAbbott0074

On another tending project, we moved a paper part token between boxes. It felt silly until both teams put it in different places.

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HassanBennett0704
Replying to TobyAbbott0057

Would you give that token an unknown-location box too?

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JoAli0244
Replying to HassanBennett0704

Yes. Unknown is a legitimate state to document. Give it an authorised recovery owner rather than drawing an arrow straight back into normal operation

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ElliotAbbott0074
Replying to JoAli0244

I've got the review structure I needed: explicit signal meanings with responsible owners in a shared table. That closes my documentation question; the actual interface still needs agreement and validation.

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JoAli0244
Replying to ElliotAbbott0074

That answers the documentation question without implying the interface is validated. The shared table gives the remaining agreement a clear home

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